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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: RosieCotton
I do! (And fried or in gumbo or in other dishes, too.)

I like it best fried and then in pickles. But since I'm trying to cut down on the fried stuff and I don't have time to do the pickles, I've been doing the gumbo with rice thing. Okra is about the only thing that did well in my garden this year.

25,421 posted on 09/13/2002 6:31:53 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Corin Stormhands
What am I? Chopped okra?

Don't believe I've ever heard of chopped okra.

25,422 posted on 09/13/2002 6:32:57 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: HairOfTheDog; Overtaxed; Sam Cree; RosieCotton; ksen; g'nad; All
Ring story. Perhaps Hair will understand this better than yesterday's story.

We had a speaker at our 9/11 service on Wednesday that was at the Arlington Sheraton when the plane hit the Pentagon. He saw the plane fly by his window. The Sheraton is less than 1/2 mile from there. He talked about how his security had been in his job and in himself, but how it should be in God.

But he shared that he and his wife have a scripture reference (somewhere in "early" Jeremiah) on their wedding rings. Then he quoted the scripture reference...and he quoted...and he quoted...and he quoted...what must've been 5-6 paragraphs.

So, we're up in the choir loft looking at each other and thinking "those are big rings..." Wonder if they shrank to fit?

'splained for Hair: We realized he meant the scripture reference was on the rings, not the whole text.

25,423 posted on 09/13/2002 6:36:16 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Overtaxed
Okra is about the only thing that did well in my garden this year.

GRASS did really well around my house this year, but that's as far as I got...moved in last fall and WAS planning on putting in lots of flowers this spring, but then Mom was diagnosed and my world went haywire, so I never got around to it.

My house is built into a hillside (the only level ground is a little strip between the house and the road), so I may never have a garden. Sigh! I'd like to have SOMEthing. Maybe one day I'll get ambitious and tier part of the slope so I can have snow peas or some other fairly simple-to-grow vegetables.

25,424 posted on 09/13/2002 6:38:57 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: Corin Stormhands
What am I? Chopped okra?

Morning Corin!

So what association property that you are the president of was broken into/vandalised last night? ;^)

25,425 posted on 09/13/2002 6:40:03 AM PDT by ksen
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To: ksen
So what association property that you are the president of was broken into/vandalised last night? ;^)

Ooh...that's cold!

25,426 posted on 09/13/2002 6:40:51 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: Corin Stormhands
You didn't happen to be in charge of the DNC back during the election of '72 were you?
25,427 posted on 09/13/2002 6:46:14 AM PDT by ksen
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To: ksen
So what association property that you are the president of was broken into/vandalised last night?

Well fortunately, I'm no longer the neighborhood association president. That's a good thing, 'cause I left the meeting/picnic early Saturday (for Corin, Jr's football game) and wasn't there when the police showed up to ask the new president if they were finished shooting off fireworks. (they were, so he just sat and talked. He was responding to complaints of "shots fired.")

But, I did just find this out. One of our lifeguards. In fact the one we had to tell she couldn't wear her string bikini (okay, she really could wear it, but not to work), was storing her cocaine in the snack bar!!!!

Do ya think that's what those goons were after???!!!

Of course, this is hearsay from a parent of a kid who worked in the snack bar. So there's nothing I can do about it. And this guard won't be back next year anyway. If her parents don't do something, she'll be in re-hab, pregnant or dead.

But I was furious when I heard that after the season was over!

25,428 posted on 09/13/2002 6:50:03 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: ksen
You didn't happen to be in charge of the DNC back during the election of '72 were you?

No, that was some other 14-year-old...

25,429 posted on 09/13/2002 6:51:46 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Sam Cree; SuzyQ
I thought Elrond was perfectly cast. I loved him

My problem with Elrond as cast and played in the movie is purely my own subjective way of seeing him in my mind's eye as I read the book versus the way he was portrayed in the movie. He seemed arrogant and a bit angry all the time in the movie, whereas in the book I pictured him as serene and humble, yet supremely confident. These qualities did not come out in the movie. That's all I'm talking about, not what he actually did and decided regarding the Ring, which was very true to the book.

I'm just saying that, for me, he was the most weakly cast of a very fine (and finely cast) movie. So where everyone else gets grades in the A+ to A- range, I would rate Elrond as about a B to a B-.

Hope that clarifies...

25,430 posted on 09/13/2002 6:58:11 AM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic; Sam Cree; SuziQ; ksen; Overtaxed
He seemed arrogant and a bit angry all the time in the movie...

That was my impression too. Sort of like he needed more fiber.

25,431 posted on 09/13/2002 7:02:20 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
And for those of us who had recently seen him in Matrix, it was rather jarring..."Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Underhill...it seems you have been living TWO lives. In one life you are Frodo Baggins, simple hobbit of the Shire..."

I agree, though, he should have been more noble and spent less time criticizing other races...

I have similar problems (which I have voiced previously) with regards to Aragorn. It's partly just a matter of interpretation, but in the books he never struck me as unsure of himself or of his mission.

25,432 posted on 09/13/2002 7:03:37 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
. He seemed arrogant and a bit angry all the time in the movie, whereas in the book I pictured him as serene and humble, yet supremely confident. These qualities did not come out in the movie. That's all I'm talking about,

Bingo! That and the equally arrogant treatment of Haldir turned me into an ElfBasher.


25,433 posted on 09/13/2002 7:05:17 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
Please, don't get me started on Haldir!

I can't ever be a complete ElfBasher, 'cause Legolas ROCKS! The first time we watched FOTR at home, we rewound about every Legolas scene multiple times...he is so cool!

25,434 posted on 09/13/2002 7:07:24 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: RosieCotton
I have similar problems (which I have voiced previously) with regards to Aragorn. It's partly just a matter of interpretation, but in the books he never struck me as unsure of himself or of his mission.

I'm glad to hear someone else say that. I was afraid to say anything along those lines for fear of being cast into Mount Doom by others here. I too, felt he seemed a bit weaker and more vulnerable than he should have. But I think that changed during the course of the movie and he will continue to grow in stature in TTT (95 days to go!!!).... So I have grown to like and accept Aragorn as played by Viggo....

25,435 posted on 09/13/2002 7:10:50 AM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: RosieCotton
Well Legolas had to behave himself if he was going to go traipsing all over Middle Earth with a bunch of mortals!
25,436 posted on 09/13/2002 7:11:31 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
Yeah, but he was cool even before that...like when he stood up for Aragorn at the council.

I love the interaction between Legolas and Gimli during the council...once they start arguing they pretty much ignore what everyone else is saying, and the look on Legolas' face when Gimli announces he's joining the Fellowship is priceless!

25,437 posted on 09/13/2002 7:18:46 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
I think Hair (I think she was the one that said this?) may be right when she says Peter Jackson wanted to show how the characters were changed by all they went through, and therefore purposely made some a bit weak at the beginning, more so than they were in the book. Same goes for Frodo - he NEVER dropped his sword and ran in the book!
25,438 posted on 09/13/2002 7:21:25 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: RosieCotton
I agree, though, he should have been more noble and spent less time criticizing other races...

I'd never thought of the "Elrond as Racist" angle. Maybe that's why he sometimes wore that sheet looking outfit.

Hhmm...........I wonder who would be the Middle-Earth equivalent of Jesse Jackson?

25,439 posted on 09/13/2002 7:23:54 AM PDT by ksen
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To: RosieCotton
Another thing about elves.

What is the deal with the Mirkwood elves and the Lothlorien elves? Couldn't Haldir see that Legolas was with the company? And Legolas was ready to soot Lothlorien elves too!

Hmmm....maybe there was a feud over the lembas recipe. The Mirkwood elves then became the Keebler elves and the Lothlorien elves became Snap, Crackle, Pop.

25,440 posted on 09/13/2002 7:26:19 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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