The New Hobbit Hole

[HairOfTheDog]

He is proud of it! He is liking this bad-boy image of his! ;~D

[rightwingreligiousfanatic]

What most Americans have yet to realize (or at least express) is that this is not just a war against countries and against terrorists. This is a war against Islam. There, I've said it. Call me a right-wing-Christian-fundamentalist-extremist

Hi all. Work continues to be very demanding lately so I will be a sporadic poster at best, but I just wanted to say:

Hey Corin! You are a right-wing-Christian-fundamentalist-extremist!

LOL! Now you know how I feel.

I agree with Corin that Saddam has to be taken out and the sooner the better. For Israel’s security if no other reason. But, surprisingly, I don’t necessarily agree that it is a war against all of Islam, yet…. I think it is a war against fundamentalist-extremist-Islam (which, admittedly, is blazing through Islam like a forest fire right now). But really our job right now is to put out that fire and attempt to reason with the remaining rational peace loving elements of Islam, helping them to move from the dark ages into the 21st century, and praying for their conversion as we go.

As Hair indicated above, this process may take quite a while. But for the security of our children and their future, I think our immediate task is clear. We must aggressively pursue the war on terrorism on all fronts, beginning with Saddam, and not ending until there is some real stability in the world. We should keep hammering down the nails that stick out the most, as it were…. And then, when we get to a point of some stability, maintaining eternal vigilance by making sure our intelligence community (CIA, FBI, etc.) is fully adequate to the task. That will be our children’s and our children’s children’s job when we will be sitting in retirement homes in Florida and Arizona enjoying discussions about the Lord of the Rings and the Christian background of Tolkien, etc….. to which subject I will turn my attention later after reading ksen’s fine post in more detail.

Thanks for listening, all…. Until later, Freep On!

[Corin Stormhands]

elves don't wear burkhas.

I dunno. Those cloaks can be pretty concealing...

[Corin Stormhands]

We must aggressively pursue the war on terrorism on all fronts, beginning with Saddam, and not ending until there is some real stability in the world.

Agreed. You, you....you...fanatic!

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

He is proud of it!

Well only the meanest Uruk-Hai can get posts pulled in the Backroom! Although the LDS has just gotten two religious threads pulled from the Backroom!

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

Bulletin on Fox News. Homeland Security Threat Level raised from yellow to orange (2nd highest). Press conference by Ashbrook and Ridge in 1 hour!!

[Corin Stormhands]

Although the LDS has just gotten two religious threads pulled from the Backroom!

I saw some of that coming. It was interesting to watch the Calvinists and Armenians siding together on that one. But the main LDS poster doesn't want certain things discussed.

[RosieCotton]

Well only the meanest Uruk-Hai can get posts pulled in the Backroom!

And you wish to emulate Uruk-Hai because...?

[ksen]

Bombing Mecca is terrorism, and I think we want to avoid the "anything goes because I am right" mentality, unless we are ready to adopt a strategy of elimination ourselves, in which case symbolism doesn't matter.

Oh alright. Could we at least takeover Mecca? Then we could tell the Muslims, “No play nice-nice, no go on Hajj.”

We just wipe out all of them.

…………………….

But then what are we?

Safe?

We can win because we are stronger, in a Darwinist elimination, but that is a different strategy than taking out their ability to strike at us, and hoping they change from within... I don't think we are there yet.

Oohh, Darwin bad.

Iraq does not have the capability of striking us. Striking AT us yes, striking us, no.

We need to take out Iraq, probably, because he is the dude with the guns. He isn't the Religious leader, you are right... he is the guy in the smoky backroom that they go to, I think.

”Probably”, “I think”, are those valid reasons to commit our blood and treasure to bringing a guy down who may have done bad things? Are you willing to send g’nad into Baghdad on the basis of “probably” and “I think”?

[RosieCotton]

There are no islamic elveses... elves don't wear burkhas.

I'd say the elves in the pictures 2JM pointed out to us yesterday are CERTAINLY not muslims...

[Corin Stormhands]

I saw that on another thread. I hope it's just precautionary. But I don't think it is.

I'm out of here for the afternoon folks. See you later tonite.

Keep it secret. Keep it safe.

God Bless America!

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

And you wish to emulate Uruk-Hai because...?

We are BAAADDD!, I mean BAAAADDDD!!!

[ksen]

You don't have a self-imposed "Smoky Backroom" ban in place do you?

[ksen]

I agree with some of your ideas, but as I said on other threads, what we think about this does not matter. The decisions are being made, and the rock has rolled too far downhill and is moving too fast to be diverted. Whatever we think, this nation is going to be fighting a war in Iraq before Christmas. Our only choices are to support our soldiers, or oppose them, there is no middle way, and there is nothing whatsoever we can do to change the decisions that have been made.

You are right, but I think we are making a mistake going after Saddam first.

However, when our troops get involved I will toss my apprehensions away(but not TOO far away) and support our troops as best I can.

[HairOfTheDog]

Are you willing to send g’nad into Baghdad on the basis of “probably” and “I think”?

I have the luxury of not being asked to make those decisions. And that is a good point. I think we have elected pretty good people to know all the details and formulate a plan. They don't have to tell me everything! It is a dangerous and unsure business. When I say, "probably" and "I think", I am leaving the more definate language for those who not only know, but are tasked with the job. It would be presumptuous of me to pretend to know more, and hobbits are never presumptuous!

[ksen]

I went back and read my #24,869 to you. I think it sounded a bit harsh. I'm sorry it sounded that way.

Now, let's talk about a pre-emptive strike on Barad-Dur. ;^)

[HairOfTheDog]

I think the strike on Barad-Dur has been won already.... He isn't causing more trouble is he?

[ksen]

I thought so, but wasn't that guy with the thread pulled in the smoky backroom the "Mouth of Sauron"?

[HairOfTheDog]

LOL! I would rather look at a huge eye of Sauron, than a huge mouth up there on screen. Why is it that Sauron always comes back as some "part"? what is next, the Nose of Sauron" - The finger of Sauron?

[ksen]

...what is next, the Nose of Sauron" - The finger of Sauron?

You know, it is times like this that I am glad g'nad isn't around. ;^)