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The New Hobbit Hole
Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: NewCenturions; Overtaxed
Tolkien's humans are quite obviously the ordinary humans found in fairy-tales (save, again, for the Númenóreans), but his Elves are by no means the ``fairies'' commonly met in them. They are not pretty toys for Victorian children. In On Fairy-stories, Tolkien draws an authoritative, absolute distinction between the pretty sprites of Shakespeare and popular fancy, and the Elves of true folklore. Elves are not part of ``that long line of flower-fairies and fluttering sprites and antennae that I so disliked as a child'' (6). Tolkien's Elves are much more the bright beings of Norse and Celtic legend, not the impotent, helpless lace beings of conventional fairy-lore. In The Notion Club Papers (published in Sauron Defeated), he has a character of his, one Professor Lowdham, talk about Elves; when questioned about the word ``elf,'' he replies, ``I didn't mean elf in any debased post-Shakespearean sense'' (306). (A full discussion of why Tolkien found conventional ideas – especially Shakespeare's – about fairies and Elves to be so distasteful and insufficient is beyond this paper; see Shippey, esp 132-39. At any rate, it suffices to say that Tolkien's Elves are not pretty toys.) The sight of an Elf-lord in his full power is enough to cow even Nazgûl: when Frodo and company are at the outskirts of Rivendell, Glorfindel their guide unleashes his powers, terrifying the pursuing Ringwraiths. ``Caught between fire and water, and seeing an Elf-lord revealed in his wrath, they were dismayed,'' explains Gandalf (Fellowship 286, 295).
Sorry for posting this somewhat lengthy essay I found posted elsewhere.
To: Sam Cree
Do not apologise! - Feel free to repost it again whenever OT misbehaves!
To: HairOfTheDog
To: Sam Cree
I love it! Thank you so much for posting it.
I am beginning to wonder what it is about my character that so loves Tolkien's writings and also enamours me so to Celtic music! I always loved the music, though I admit since obtaining my whistle it has really exploded.
No one in my family is that crazy about it and my parents have thought I'm a little odd because of it. Sure, I have liked my share of other music, but it's the old Celtic tunes I come back to over and over. Just like books...I like other books, but it's Tolkien I come back to again and again.
I don't think it has anything to do with my heritage. I'm a Heinz 57!
To: Overtaxed
To: HairOfTheDog
To: Overtaxed
You almost tricked me into that! But I stopped it before anything played. I saw what the url was!
To: 2Jedismom
Hehehe......I'm a nasty tricksey hobbit this morning! I want my whistles!
To: Overtaxed
I love it! - Thank you!
To: HairOfTheDog
Maybe I should go back to the elf pictures.
To: Overtaxed
OT,
We will never agree on the dwarves vs Elves but
I hope at least we can agree on our dislike of squirrels! One of our dogs just fractured his canine tooth in pursuit of the varmit so I'll be spending my Labor Day doing a crash course in veterinary dentistry. So much for a restful holiday!
To: HairOfTheDog; Corin Stormhands
I think you can mention it here. ksen posted a blatant ad for the mouse last night in an attempt to lure the entmoot ot Florida.Just trying to appeal to everyone's baser instincts. ;^)
23,032
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09/02/2002 9:04:52 AM PDT
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ksen
To: Corin Stormhands; HairOfTheDog
Won't he have to stop being Baptist if we go to Disney World?ksen's not a SOUTHERN Baptist. ksen is an INDEPENDENT Baptist. ;^)
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09/02/2002 9:06:10 AM PDT
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ksen
To: NewCenturions
spending my Labor Day doing a crash course in veterinary dentistry. This is a frightening statement, and I am not even your dog! - What on earth have you got in mind?
To: Corin Stormhands
I think ksen is Baptist, but I'm not sure what flavor....I'm the correct flavor. ;^)
23,035
posted on
09/02/2002 9:08:02 AM PDT
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ksen
To: ksen
So no conversion is necessary? Good! - I am not skipping Disney World if I go all the way to Florida!
To: HairOfTheDog; Corin Stormhands
Well, he did post the mouse as a lure.... Is it working?
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posted on
09/02/2002 9:09:01 AM PDT
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ksen
To: HairOfTheDog
LOL! Oh, I don't mean I'm going to practice on him...just check for swelling, make sure he's not in pain. Not only are no vets open today, we are out in the boonies and there are no vet dentists near. Poor little guy - he actually "attacked" the bird feeder, trying to get the squirrel, and ending up leaving part of his tooth in the wood. By the way, this dog looks like a miniature Warg!
To: HairOfTheDog
So no conversion is necessary? To go to Disney World? Nope.
To go to Heaven? Well...........
23,039
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09/02/2002 9:11:09 AM PDT
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ksen
To: NewCenturions
Poor dog! Do they do root canals on dogs?
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