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The New Hobbit Hole
Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; Overtaxed
Where's OT this morning? We've been fairly gabby and not much from her!
To: 2Jedismom
Perhaps she is raking the dust around in her garden?
To: Corin Stormhands
"the People's Republic of Charlottesville"
Ha, that's an apt description these days, though I don't think it was like that when I was a kid during the 50's and 60's. Too many New Yorkers have moved in during the last 20 years.
To: HairOfTheDog; Overtaxed; Corin Stormhands
LOL! We're getting rain here again! It's really astounding. This has been a really mild summer here. We usually spend hours and hours watering the grass, this year we have hardly had to do it at all!
If I can just keep my rutabagas alive till the weather cools...
To: Alkhin
, I thought Viggo made an EXCELLENT AragornI thought Viggo was too short. Who is Timothy Dalton?
To: 2Jedismom
Where's OT this morning? We've been fairly gabby and not much from her! LOL! Our schedules are out of whack! When I was ready to gab, no one was about. Now that my samples are thawed and I have to do some work, here you are!
To: Alkhin
Wow Alkhin! - You are summoning up a lot of feeling this morning! - TWO long heartfelt posts! And here I am playing with my numb face and thinking of sleep.
That said... As for the part that had to do with Frodo, and the flight to the ford, I think it is neutral... - Not better or worse... I like both ways. Her line at the river was cheesy, but jeepers. it was two seconds.
But you are right about how neat it is to know about the love story already when we are getting to know Aragorn. I like knowing that about him... and on my typical reads through the story, I didn't read the appendices, nor did a lot of people I bet. Only a couple times had I looked back there. Hidden back there is a beautiful love story, and I liked getting to see it.
To: 2Jedismom
We usually spend hours and hours watering the grass You have grass? Even my weeds have died.
To: 2Jedismom; HairOfTheDog; Overtaxed; g'nad
We're getting rain here again! Sigh...more of the same here...
To: Corin Stormhands
To: Corin Stormhands
I have the windows open! This is inconceivable for August in Oklahoma!
To: Overtaxed
To: Corin Stormhands
I think I'd rather have Jethro as double-naught seven.
To: HairOfTheDog
I like the part in the appendices where Sam goes to the Grey Havens, noted in the time line, after Mistress Rose dies and Sam passed over the Sea, last of the Ring-bearers.
I want to cry everytime I read it.
To: 2Jedismom
Yes - see that is another one that is hidden back there! - I didn't read that one for years! after I had been through the books a few times.
To: Overtaxed
I think I'd rather have Jethro as double-naught seven. Well, Elly Mae could be Arwen, 'cause she could whup up on any man...
To: Alkhin
" historical reference when women did have stronger influence in society and probably had every bit of training as a soldier. There are several VERY strong military activly warrior like women in English history (Buttica, Helen of Aquitane, Joan d'Arc)."
I don't know that many women had "every bit of training as a soldier" or more influence in society back then (though I believe JRRT's mythology is meant to be set long before medieval times), probably those you mentioned are more like exceptions that prove the rule. (Elizabeth I, Catherine the Great also). However, I didn't mind Arwen's augmented role, it was beautifully done.
I don't suppose courtly love has to be demeaning.
Hair, wouldn't Glorfindel's horse have had a better chance to outrun the wraiths with just Frodo aboard (and not his mother on the horse with him)? You'd think so, considering the size of jockeys.
Actually, until running accross this thread, I would have considered LOTR more of a guys' book, what with all the running around the countryside and fighting and stuff. However, I suppose I am proven wrong about that?
"In short, in some ways, I believe PJ IMPROVED Tolkien's work. "
I actually thinks so too, though I'd infinitely prefer to have just the book if I had to choose only one. Boromir's death was alot more moving in the film. Though, to tell you the truth, I think Jackson's genius has been in creating a film that allows us to appreciate Tolkien that much more, if such a thing is possible.
Agree with you on ATOC. I found it hard to get interested in a movie where the protagonist was such a jerk
To: HairOfTheDog
Hey, check out my profile and see if my pictures are showing up...I want to see if they are and not just stored in my cache...I don't know how to clear my cache on this new computer.
If so, then I've found a better alternative to Fotki, my friend! It's York Photolab! I apparently can link to my album there.
The particular pictures would be the one of me and the jedis and the whistle pic at the bottom.
To: Sam Cree; Alkhin
Agree with you on ATOC. I found it hard to get interested in a movie where the protagonist was such a jerk I couldn't wait for AOTC to end. But don't you think making him a jerk is their feeble attempt to get us not to like him? After all, in The Phantom Menace Anakin was "cute" and promising. In the next movie he has to morph from annoying teenager to evil personified. My guess is that was their intent, but they just didn't pull it off.
(Sorry for the Star Wars tangent...)
To: Alkhin; Overtaxed; HairOfTheDog; g'nad
And who the heck was Glorfindel anyway?? Pantywaste if you ask me!!! He put Frodo on a horse and sent him forward to meet up with the Black Riders ALONE!!!!!. STUPID Elf, if you ask me. Why didn't you ping me and let me know the elf bashing had started?
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08/12/2002 9:53:45 AM PDT
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