The New Hobbit Hole

[2Jedismom]

Problem is with me...I said everything I deemed meaningful about the entire book in the first 2-3 thousand posts in the old Hole! Most people already know my thoughts. I like to lurk there and listen to everyone elses. Usually everyone is pretty much on the same page philosophically (sp?) which says something about how Tolkien communicated his story...imo.

[HairOfTheDog]

Just cuz you said it all before doesn't mean it ain't worth saying again! We like stories we have heard before! Or do you just feel that you have gotten it out of your system?

[2Jedismom]

LOL! I think that's it! It's out of my system! I held all my thoughts in all those years I've been reading those books and found in the old Hole people who actually seemed to like what I had to say about them and it all just poured out!

Steve tries to show interest in it...even to the point of re-reading the books twice with what I've told him in mind. I appreciate that. But my dad wanted nothing to do with it, my mom told me just the other day she didn't even know if she wanted to see the TT because the book was so dull!! How did these people raise me?? LOL

Mom also told me (with all the disdain she could muster) that me reading the LOTR aloud to the boys into a recorder was a phenomenol waste of time. I said "How? I read to them every night anyway?" No answer was given, just that silence I hear whenever I ask a question too stupid to answer.

[HairOfTheDog]

Well, try to muster up some inspiration to tell us again how you feel about it!

We wanna hear it!

And your kids will love to hear your voice many years from now when your voice has faded... so buy high quality tapes... OH yeah... and a new cassette player, and seal it up in a 50 year time capsule, because they wont have a machine that can play the tapes in 50 years!

[Ladysmith]

Hey there! I don't have the patience to wait for the bidding and all to end so I went for the "Buy It Now"!! It was $9.35 total. I pray I did everything right, even sending out the payment before waiting for the seller's confirmation! LOL

Now that it's ordered, I'm going to go nuts waiting for the darn thing to get here! Between that and waiting for the DVD next week, I should be a real loon by Tuesday night!

[2Jedismom]

Well, what brought the whole thing up in the first place was I was asking her advice about recording into the computer. She has all kinds of audio recording stuff from when she used to play the keyboard through her computer. I thought I should try to get a special mic or something to read into...record it to my hard drive and then copy onto disks ask I get enough to fill one. I believe audiocassettes are soon to be a thing of the past.

[2Jedismom]

I hope you like it! OT and I just love ours!!

Have you signed up for the FR Hobbit Hole egroup?

[HairOfTheDog]

floppies are not good for long term storage either.... They deteriorate and are easily corrupted.

CD writers are not expensive anymore.

Course any format you choose will be out of date eventually I suppose!

Those clips from last night are great! - I just watched them again!

[Ladysmith]

Yep, a new hobby! It should be a real hoot! [snicker!]

I'm on some of the different LotR ping lists, including this Hobbit Hole...not sure if that's considered an "egroup" or not...

[HairOfTheDog]

Seen today at TORN

Cinescape Scoop
Jackson talks next two LORD OF THE RINGS

Frodo’s wild ride…

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Dateline: Friday, August 2, 2002

By: CHRISTOPHER ALLAN SMITH AND ERIC MORO

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While talking recently to CINESCAPE’s own Eric Moro, LORD OF THE RINGS director Peter Jackson teased the dark journey fans of the film trilogy Frodo will be going on in the next two installments, and why he might not even be the hero of the trilogy by the end.

“What basically happens is [the films] become darker and they emotionally go places, which is very interesting,” Jackson said. “As Frodo’s journey with the Ring continues, the Ring starts to affect him more. There’s an interesting dynamic that is going to happen in these films where in the first movie, Frodo is the audience. He’s the Everyman character. In the second film, THE TWO TOWERS, the Ring starts to act on him in a much stronger way. By the third film, Frodo has such a burden to carry and is starting to behave in such a strange way that I think the empathy of the audience will switch to Sam, who is accompanying Frodo on this journey. Frodo becomes so troubled by this Ring that we are now going to be looking at this story through Sam’s eyes by the time THE RETURN OF THE KING comes out, because we can no longer really go there with Frodo because he has his own tortuous journey that he takes on. It will be very interesting to see the three films together because there’s going to be this switch as each film becomes more intense.”

Granted, for those of you who’ve read the books this might not be much of a shock, but for those who haven’t read them, it’s a sweet glimpse.

For more on THE TWO TOWERS and THE RETURN OF THE KING, pick up a copy of CINESCAPE’s SEQUELMANIA at newsstands now.

[HairOfTheDog]

HI Ladysmith... the egroup is a different thing... A yahoo site... I will let 2J tell you about it because she is probably off crafting the explanation now!

[2Jedismom]

I have a cd burner in my new computer...

[2Jedismom]

Send her the info, sis...I have it on the mac and I'm on the PC right now.

[2Jedismom]

By the third film, Frodo has such a burden to carry and is starting to behave in such a strange way that I think the empathy of the audience will switch to Sam, who is accompanying Frodo on this journey. Frodo becomes so troubled by this Ring that we are now going to be looking at this story through Sam’s eyes by the time THE RETURN OF THE KING comes out, because we can no longer really go there with Frodo because he has his own tortuous journey that he takes on.

I got a glimpse of this today while watching the film... Right at the end, when Frodo says, "I wonder if we'll ever see them again" and Sam says "We may, Mr. Frodo...we may." I watched Sam's face closely and after Frodo turns away, the expression changes every so slightly to a look of "I'm going to get you through this, Frodo..." It goes from kindness to determination. And I actually thought to myself "Sam's going to take over...he's going to have to. And he's going to be the one to watch toward the end."

[2Jedismom]

But like the article says...this is no surprise to us that have read the book. Still, its a nuance that PJ could have not gone into all that deep...or even blown off all together. But he didn't...he understands this book.

I'm so glad.

[HairOfTheDog]

The Yahoo Hobbit Hole is another place we created that has restricted membership just for FReeper Hobbity types, and we share some cool files and stuff there.

There is also a chat room where we meet and shoot the breeze sometimes, and most recently, have been doing simulviews of the film... we all watch it on our own computers or TVs, and we chat onscreen about it as it goes through... it is like whispering in the theater I guess, only not so annoying!

I will FReepmail you the instructions for joining in a minute... Join if you like! If we are doing a scheduled chat, we can send a email to the group, and we usually announce it here.

Others lurking that still don't belong to that should join now so they can participate in the view/chats when the DVDs arrive!

[HairOfTheDog]

I am glad too, amidst all these stories and fears of changes to also hear hints that some of the important themes are going to be handled very right!

[Ladysmith]

Wonderful! Sounds like fun! I'll watch for your e-mail!

[Overtaxed]

Sneak!

[Overtaxed]

Sneak!