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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: Sam Cree
Good morning Sam!
12,341 posted on 07/06/2002 7:03:12 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: 2Jedismom
If the school claims to be a Christian institution and they don't stick to a Christian perspective, what's the point of sending them to a Christian school?

That's not my point (or my wife's). And actually it may be the school that is in for the shock. It's one thing to not want your kids to read certain things. And like I said, the reading list was a suggested list. They are free to read anything they choose. She was given some guidelines by the school administrator, and she has stayed within those guidelines.

I have trouble with labeling things "Christian" just because. And especially have trouble with accepting the mediocre just because it's "for the Lord."

She IS teaching things from a Biblical world view. But it's simply fantasy to deny that sex, drugs and rock and roll are happening. And, by the time these kids are in the 10th grade, they should be making some of those value judgements on their own.

IMHO, anyone who asks if a suggested list of reading materials is approved for "Christian" families has a very small world view.

12,342 posted on 07/06/2002 7:06:15 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: HairOfTheDog
Good morning, you guys. I'm going to be away soon, though.

"Sounds slightly hobbo-erotic to us."-Rebecca Ascher-Walsh,Entertainment Weekly, #662, July 12, 2002"

Am I reading it wrong or is that an irritating comment?

12,343 posted on 07/06/2002 7:06:51 AM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: Corin Stormhands
Tell you wife to respond with "What is wrong with you, You stupid cow?" and see what happens...

Don't mind me, I am just an innocent bystander!

12,344 posted on 07/06/2002 7:09:00 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Sam Cree
It is a super irritating comment!... And an odd comment, even from Entertainment Weekly. I included the whole thing just to see if anyone was paying attention.
12,345 posted on 07/06/2002 7:10:41 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Sam Cree
I bet she means it as a compliment. It just makes me wish I could slap her anyhow. the word erotic just doesn't belong in our story.
12,346 posted on 07/06/2002 7:12:57 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Well, if that referred to me and my uncle or me and my nephew, I wouldn't take it as a compliment. Is Bilbo the uncle or a cousin?
12,347 posted on 07/06/2002 7:23:22 AM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: Sam Cree
Didn't somebody explain how he is both? I don't remember it.
12,348 posted on 07/06/2002 7:25:04 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Corin Stormhands
Morning Corin,

"But it's simply fantasy to deny that sex, drugs and rock and roll are happening. "

Not to mention a good many other current events, past history, literature, etc.

12,349 posted on 07/06/2002 7:26:02 AM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: Sam Cree
Irritating, and warped.
12,350 posted on 07/06/2002 7:39:30 AM PDT by Rocko
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To: 2Jedismom; HairOfTheDog
I personally think the entire question is moronic because the parent ought to make the final decision (Christian school or not) on what the child reads.

I should've read through all the posts before responding the first time. That's exactly how she has approached it. She told the parent that, if there's a problem with a particular work, they should be the one to say to the child "I don't want you to read that." But she also was pretty strong in saying that they should have a reason.

Here's the list:

Fiction

Autobiography of Miss Jane Pittman by Ernest Gaines
Rebecca by Daphne DuMaurier
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde by Robert Louis Stevenson
The Testament by John Grisham
The Glass Lake by Maeve Binchy
Enemies: A Love Story by Isaac Bashevis Singer
Tar Baby or The Bluest Eye by Toni Morrison
The Color Purple by Alice Walker
The Chosen by Chiam Potok
White Fang by Jack London
My Antonia by Willa Cather A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court by Mark Twain
The Jungle by Upton Sinclair
Gone with the Wind by Margaret Mitchell
One Flew over the Cuckoo’s Nest by Ken Kesey
I Never Promised You a Rose Garden by Joanne Greenberg
Cold Sassy Tree by Olive Ann Burns
Member of the Wedding by Carson McCullers
The Giver by Lois Lowry
Night by Elie Wiesel
Summer of my German Soldier by Bette Greene
The Snow Goose by Paul Gallico
The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde
Kane and Abel by Jeffrey Archer
The Mayor of Casterbridge by Thomas Hardy
The Things They Carried by Tim O’Brien

Mysteries

The Cat Who Knew Shakespeare by Lillian Jackson Braun
The Runaway Jury by John Grisham
Murder on the Orient Express by Agatha Christie
“A” Is for Alibi by Sue Grafton
Vertical Run by Joseph Garber
I’ll Be Seeing You by Mary Higgins Clark
Intruder in the Dust by William Faulkner

Science Fiction / Fantasy

The Martian Chronicles or Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury
Jurassic Park or The Andromeda Strain by Michael Crichton
The Crystal Cave by Mary Stewart
Perelandra by C.S. Lewis
2001: A Space Odyssey or Childhood’s End by Arthur C. Clarke

Non-Fiction

All Creatures Great and Small by James Herriot
Shakespeare of London by Marchette Chute
Gorillas in the Mist by Dian Fossey
Champions: Stories of Ten Remarkable Athletes by Bill Littlefield
Autobiography of Mark Twain by Samuel Clemens
Angela’s Ashes by Frank McCourt
Eleanor Roosevelt: A Life of Discovery by Russell Freedman
An American Childhood by Annie Dillard
Anna and the King of Siam by Margaret Landin
Having Our Say: The Delany Sisters’ First 100 Years by Sarah L. and A. Elizabeth Delany
Into Thin Air by John Krakauer
Eight Men Out: The Black Sox and the World Series in 1919 by Eliot Asinof
In These Girls, Hope Is a Muscle by Madeleine Blais
She Said Yes: the Unlikely Martyrdom of Cassie Bernall by Misty Bernall
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I think that's a pretty balanced list. She did get one complaint about Angela's Ashes because there is a (teenage?) sexual encounter. But again, if we say it's not happening, we're just avoiding reality. I think it far better to say it's happening and deal with why it's wrong.

12,351 posted on 07/06/2002 7:41:59 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Rocko
"Irritating, and warped."

I always think that sort of talk results from leftist (liberal) thinking and mindset. Anything that treats good and evil as absolute, they want to trash it somehow. It helps them trash our traditions.

12,352 posted on 07/06/2002 7:48:21 AM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: Sam Cree
I'm curious, what is a "home school academy?"

The school is set up so that parents who home school can send their kids to classes with other home schoolers. The idea is that if a parent (particularly in the upper grades) is weak in a subject, they can band with other home schoolers. Some parents choose to only send their parents to the academy when they're older.

12,353 posted on 07/06/2002 7:50:13 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: HairOfTheDog
Tell you wife to respond with "What is wrong with you, You stupid cow?" and see what happens...

Well, what she wanted to say was similar to that...I told her last night to hang onto her bosses' number at Wal-Mart. We may be needing it around December. (I figure someone will spot her going to see the 2nd Harry Potter movie, then it'll all be over with...)

12,354 posted on 07/06/2002 7:52:48 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands
Isn't James Herriot British? - "All Creatures Great and Small" - Love the books, and the TV series, but it is definately based in England... Was it written by an American?


12,355 posted on 07/06/2002 7:53:01 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Corin Stormhands
Some parents choose to only send their parents to the academy when they're older.

That is a funny typo... Can't trust the acadamy with my children, but maybe I will send my parents - when they are older!

12,356 posted on 07/06/2002 7:56:31 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Corin Stormhands
"The school is set up so that parents who home school can send their kids to classes with other home schoolers."

Sounds like a school from pioneer days. Sounds good, potentially.

Anyway, it's kind of a leap to think that the state could bring up your children better than you could.

12,357 posted on 07/06/2002 7:57:34 AM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: HairOfTheDog
She didn't limit her suggested reading list to only American authors. C.S. Lewis is also on her list. Next year she'll teach British Lit (if they have her back!).

She'll also be teaching a unit on Shakespeare every year.

But her main point with the reading list is just that they are reading. She also offered them the opportunity to suggest books.

12,358 posted on 07/06/2002 7:57:39 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: HairOfTheDog
That is a funny typo...

Oops. Now you see why she's the teacher...

12,359 posted on 07/06/2002 7:58:36 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands
She didn't limit her suggested reading list to only American authors. C.S. Lewis is also on her list.

WELL THEN If she is making exceptions, can you explain why Tolkien is not on this list? tap tap...

[harumph!]

12,360 posted on 07/06/2002 8:01:14 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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