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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: Overtaxed
I read Amber. After a while I was wondering if there was any plot to it

It does have a rather satisfying resolution, at the end of the fifth book.

After reading it many, many times, I get the feeling that Zelazny had originally planned a trilogy, but when he got to the third book found he had a lot more story that he wanted to tell, and wound up adding two extra books. I think the same thing happened with the second Amber series (the one with Merlin as the protagonist). But, that's just my opinion.

11,061 posted on 06/27/2002 8:26:42 AM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: HairOfTheDog
You forgot


11,062 posted on 06/27/2002 8:27:22 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: ksen
but who REALLY knows what the color fuchsia is.

I bet the Elves know.

Good morning!

11,063 posted on 06/27/2002 8:28:10 AM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: JenB
Have a great day, and meant to ping you to #11061!
11,064 posted on 06/27/2002 8:29:54 AM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: g'nad; Lucius Cornelius Sulla; ecurbh
Lots O Laughs to you too! - Where is LCS anyway? And when is ecurbh gonna plug his computer back in?
11,065 posted on 06/27/2002 8:30:06 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
I read the first book. Great! Picked up the second one and voila! He's dealing with the same problem I thought was resolved in the first book! Same deal with the third. Pretty soon it looked like politicking and personal conflicts that never got solved....just like a soap opera.
11,066 posted on 06/27/2002 8:31:10 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Corin Stormhands
Better morning to you... Hope y'all find the little vandals who caused the damage.
11,067 posted on 06/27/2002 8:31:20 AM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Overtaxed
I didn't forget him!... I only invited the laughing ones.
Not all of them liked the joke!



11,068 posted on 06/27/2002 8:32:25 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
How do you know that the Ginsu hobbit is laughing?
11,069 posted on 06/27/2002 8:34:24 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
He's dealing with the same problem I thought was resolved in the first book!

Uhm, wait a minute... the first book ended with Corwin recovering his sight and escaping prison, vowing revenge on the brother who blinded and imprisoned him... how was anything resolved?

When you read it, you did realize it was a multi-book series, didn't you?

11,070 posted on 06/27/2002 8:34:59 AM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
Yes I did realize it was a multibook series. I just expected a progression of events, not the same things hashed out over and over again. Maybe it was one of the later books. I remember the impression I had after finishing the books but the particulars, I have forgotten. Stories that I don't particularly enjoy don't stay on the memory stack for too long!
11,071 posted on 06/27/2002 8:38:45 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
Ginsu hobbit holds a special place in my heart... Ginsu always gets to come along...
11,072 posted on 06/27/2002 8:39:37 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Overtaxed
Yes I did realize it was a multibook series.

OK, was just checking. ;) I admit the series did begin to wander a bit in the 3rd and 4th books... I just enjoyed the wandering. Everyone's taste is different.

I enjoy soap operas, too...

11,073 posted on 06/27/2002 8:44:15 AM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: HairOfTheDog
Update:

Aragorn is going to walk the paths of the Dead.

Merry has sworn fealty to King Theoden.

Gandalf and Pippen have taken off.

Frodo and Sam are being led about by Gollum. He is taking them about in some rather circuitous routes, I think he is trying to avoid any tolls.
11,074 posted on 06/27/2002 8:49:55 AM PDT by ksen
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
I mean as nearly as I can recall either reconcile with the guy or whack him good! I don't call it a reconciliation if you still have to guard your back against him.
11,075 posted on 06/27/2002 8:50:11 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: ksen
The story seems to be meandering at this point. Everybody is off doing their own thing, I miss the unity of the old days.


11,076 posted on 06/27/2002 8:56:24 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Overtaxed
I mean as nearly as I can recall either reconcile with the guy or whack him good!

Well, Eric (the brother who blinded and imprisoned Corwin) got whacked (2nd book), Brand (the brother who was really evil) got whacked (5th book), the Courts of Chaos (the power really behind all the trouble) got thumped a bit (5th book), but then you really can't whack one of the fundamental forces giving shape to the universe.

I liked the politics and Machiavellian deviousness of Corwin's family. But again, tastes differ.

"I trust him as I would a brother... which is to say, not at all." --Corwin, from one of the books and I don't quite remember which one.

11,077 posted on 06/27/2002 8:58:49 AM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
Did Eric and Brand get permanently whacked? As in assuming room temperature where they can't do any more harm? I didn't remember that part. :) I think I would have liked it better if the story stuck to the fundamental force story.

It was the Machiavellian deviousness of Corwin's family that made me wish they'd all assume room temperature.

11,078 posted on 06/27/2002 9:36:31 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear; HairOfTheDog; Overtaxed; ksen
Just got in from the library day. It went pretty good until almost the very end when Matthew and Joshua started running rampant and actually screamed out in the library. I had to take them out to the car and lecture them, after which they had to go in and apologize to the librarian. Matthew stammered through it but Joshua just dissolved into tears and the librarian came around and consoled him.

We came home (instead of going to the store to buy gum) and further discipline was administered privately.

Now, after a brief time to recover emotionally, the boys are outside playing (burning off the energy that caused the yelling in the first place) and just made me a gift of a mimosa tree stem with pink puffy flowers on it.

Lunch in a few minutes!
11,079 posted on 06/27/2002 9:52:10 AM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: Overtaxed
Did Eric and Brand get permanently whacked? As in assuming room temperature where they can't do any more harm?

Yup, they both kicked the bucket, shuffled off this mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the choir invisible. So to speak. Although their ghosts appeared in one of the Merlin stories, but we won't go there.

It was the Machiavellian deviousness of Corwin's family that made me wish they'd all assume room temperature.

I half-remember a funny quote regarding his family's proceedings from one of the later books, but it will have to wait until I get home and can look it up.

Pretty much all of Zelazny's protagonists were in that mold. About the only one who wasn't was the biker in Damnation Alley. He was pretty much a "see a problem, kill a problem" kind of guy.

11,080 posted on 06/27/2002 10:30:39 AM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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