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From Civics Lesson to Color Revolution: What the 'Refuse Orders' Message Really Did
AMUSE on X ^ | 21 Nov, 2025 | @AMUSE

Posted on 11/22/2025 8:26:07 AM PST by MtnClimber

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To: MtnClimber

I assume that these speakers are not just exercising their free speech rights in a general way. So what was their motivation specifically? Two things come to mind and both are related to the drug cartels. Trump is ridding the country of illegals. The cartels are in the illegals smuggling business and demand for their services is significantly diminished. Trump is interdicting the flow of drugs by blowing the cartels boats out of the water and costing them millions. Trump is using our military and IC resources to battle them on their own turf in black ops. These are unconventional actions for a US President that is showing success. Democrats who routinely oppose anything he does are more specifically threatened by these actions. It would be interesting to see if an investigation of these particular Democrats turned up links to the Cartels or their business interests.


21 posted on 11/22/2025 9:30:50 AM PST by Rowdyone (Vigilence)
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To: econjack
I don’t see why this is not an act of treason. Is a soldier in the field the right one to decide what is a “lawful order”? Are they mature enough to refuse orders? I should certainly hope so. The Uniform Code of Military Justice is predicated on exactly that.

I think what these people did is slimy and wrong, but that's not because soldiers should be presumed unable to distinguish between lawful and unlawful orders. Nor does it qualify as "treason".

People throw around that word far too often while apparently having no.idea of what it means legally.

22 posted on 11/22/2025 10:23:02 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: MtnClimber; marktwain
Does an organized influx of 20mm illegals constitute an invasion?

Surely you jest.

Does the Constitution charge the Federal government with repelling that invasion?

Clearly yes.

Are ICE officers minimally invasive agents of that charge?

Obviously.

When rich leftists organize and fund sometimes violent protests and harassment of ICE officers and their families, does that justify the use of National Guard to protect them in their duties.

Quite rationally.

Can those guardsmen execute an arrest of violent "resistors" to that end?

Surely

If a State governor abets that harassment, is that governor violating the chain of command from the CIC?

Quite arguably.

Then how is any of that illegal? Trump should have issued an order to both Pritzger and Noisome and then could subsequently threaten arrest.

Where I think Trump is wrong is to use NG troops to enforce public safety. That is clearly a State function anywhere outside DC. It's a very bad precedent that opens us to government seizure of our firearms.

23 posted on 11/22/2025 10:24:36 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: MtnClimber

The article comes closer than any other to stating my belief that these cowards hope to engender service wide resistance as a first step toward a military coup. And this follows years of illegal acts to kill, neutralize, arrest, convict, bankrupt the President, all failures. So, even failing at assassination, the hope becomes a revolution to storm the gates. What they see as their positions in the post-Trump revolution is unclear, but one thing is clear: They all have theirs, having done serving and now reaping the benefits of the service. From such a throne of security and comfort, they encourage young, malleable minds to jeopardize their careers and lives, something they never would have had the courage to do while serving.


24 posted on 11/22/2025 10:47:00 AM PST by DPMD (u)
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To: Carry_Okie

EVERY soldier, sailor and Marine surrounding Trump now has the AFFECT of Crooks, Routh and Robinson—ALL assassins!


25 posted on 11/22/2025 10:54:22 AM PST by Does so (☞GOP should fund a new party. Call it the "Muslim Party", to track it.....Dem☭¢rat ∅ ™ ½¼)
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To: MtnClimber
They regard any order from teh Trump administration as ipso facto illegal.
26 posted on 11/22/2025 5:59:04 PM PST by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Democrat cult.)
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To: MtnClimber
US tradition has insisted that the chain of command runs from the president through the secretary of defense to uniformed officers, and that disputes over legality are resolved by military lawyers and ultimately by the judiciary, not by rank and file troops reading headlines. When members of Congress encourage service members to see themselves as autonomous judges of legality in such contexts, they do not strengthen the rule of law. They transform every politically controversial deployment into a potential referendum inside the barracks.

27 posted on 11/23/2025 8:20:32 AM PST by Albion Wilde (To live free is the greatest gift; to die free is the greatest victory. —Erica Kirk)
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To: MtnClimber
The six lawmakers describe themselves as unbowed by threats and exhort Americans to show moral clarity. They insist that having the troops’ backs means supporting those who refuse illegal orders. The implication is that obedience to disputed Trump directives is not just legally risky, it is morally suspect.

Any and every conversation with a liberal ends up with them somehow accusing you of being not just wrong, but evil. Disgusting hypocrisy is their playbook.

28 posted on 11/23/2025 8:24:02 AM PST by Albion Wilde (To live free is the greatest gift; to die free is the greatest victory. —Erica Kirk)
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To: MtnClimber
There is a principled way to educate service members about unlawful orders, through professional military education, chain of command instruction, and clear legal guidance about true atrocities. There is also an unprincipled way, which is to drop political messaging into their TikTok feeds and hope they begin to view contested domestic deployments and controversial strikes as de facto illegal. The Slotkin Kelly video sits uncomfortably close to most definitely embodies the second model.
Fixed it.
29 posted on 11/23/2025 8:31:40 AM PST by Albion Wilde (To live free is the greatest gift; to die free is the greatest victory. —Erica Kirk)
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To: Albion Wilde

These politicians are now playing the victim card even though they are clearly part of the color revolution trying to overthrow President Trump.


30 posted on 11/23/2025 8:37:08 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber
This excellent essay is wordy and repetitive; but when you get to the last paragraph, you see how painstaking is was for the writer to proceed step by step through the fog of our past 100+ years of lib/prog radical indoctrination against Constitutional command hierarchy to arrive at the bottom line:
...sedition and treason require a fair trial and serious punishment—even capital punishment.
Anything less is suicidal.
31 posted on 11/23/2025 8:44:18 AM PST by Albion Wilde (To live free is the greatest gift; to die free is the greatest victory. —Erica Kirk)
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To: Albion Wilde
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32 posted on 11/23/2025 9:01:03 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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33 posted on 11/23/2025 11:37:53 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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