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The Big Lebowski Civil War
Kunstler.com ^ | 29 Sep, 2025 | James Howard Kunstler

Posted on 09/30/2025 7:15:27 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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To: Organic Panic
Portland was a great prosperous city and Oregon was very cheap to live. The whole state was nice. It was “liberal” but more in a “stay out of my business” sort of way. Not the “I’m from the government and we know all” like it is now.

I spent some time living in Portland a while back, and I heard more than a few native Oregonian left wingers complain about the new breed of lefties coming in from California (San Francisco, specifically, of course) and how they were changing the culture from a Wild West sort of liberalism to the rigid, totalitarian, always up your rear end, Left that we see now, and they hated it almost as much as I did. Now, of course, they have adapted to the new indoctrination.
61 posted on 09/30/2025 12:19:29 PM PDT by fr_freak (So foul a sky clears not without a storm.)
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To: Organic Panic

well, no, actually, Lincoln was the first Republican president. You are right about the Emancipation Proclamation; and the fact that the northern states had been using slavery as their excuse for the confiscatory tariffs imposed on the south only. Then, of course, they were able to say the south went to war to save slavery-— when southerners bought a damn country in Africa to move the slave to. (Liberia); God I hate yankees.


62 posted on 09/30/2025 12:52:21 PM PDT by Segovia (https://townhall.com/columnists/kevinmccullough/2025/07/06/fossil-fooled-lives-vs-lies-n2659950)
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To: MtnClimber
The rant about suburbs is ridiculous and smacks of European "throne and altar" conservatism's and communist's rants about "Americanism" and "consumerism."

When my parents moved out of NYC to the 'burbs, they were still neighborhoods, meaning everyone knew who else lived there. Enough parents were around that any of us miscreants could always be warned, "Wait 'til your father gets home!" or grabbed by an ear and "instructed" by any adult present.

The social decay of divorce had not yet struck and the availability of single jobs paying enough for a middle-class household meant enough adults were around to provide a social fabric. Cities were considered bad for children because they were full of filth and vice.

I would add that even today, a house & yard provide a good opportunity for teaching children about work and pay via chores. Most importantly, every homeowner has a stake in the stability of the community and in the safety of property from both criminal and government depredation, especially when the latter is hard to distinguish from the former.

63 posted on 09/30/2025 1:27:01 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: MtnClimber
managing a system they have failed in.

He should have said, "a system designed for them to fail." Look at what entry-level jobs pay and look at the cost of rent. When the good paying jobs have been outsourced, replaced by H1-B visa holders or illegals have flooded the labor market reduced wages to a pittance, there is no way forward for many young people. A good example: I did the stupidest construction labor imaginable in 1981 for $8/hr. That's about $27/hr now. Enough for a young man to get started. Now we expect him to take the $8/hr, less than 1/3 of what I earned & "get a move on." LOL

Yes we admire the people who start from nothing and manage to get ahead and also the very few long term prison inmates who find Jesus, straighten their lives out and never see the inside of a cell again.

But you can't make social policy expecting everyone to be a hero. The object of macroeconomic policy should be a solid middle-class life for the vast majority of Americans. This cannot be achieved via redistribution as the Dems want but must be achieved by setting macro-economic policies into place that make American labor valuable again by cutting out foreign labor competition and forcing capital to be invested here if you want to do business here. If our esteemed "entrepreneurs" and mavens of financial wizardry on Wall Street think that's too restrictive, I refer them to Luke 12:48: "To whom much is given, much will be required."

64 posted on 09/30/2025 1:44:12 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Who is John Galt?
uh-oh, i own this one...
65 posted on 09/30/2025 1:52:19 PM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: MtnClimber

66 posted on 09/30/2025 1:52:29 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: MtnClimber
...crazed young women too untamed to find a mate, many obese and self-mutilated like tattooed savages with steel bones in their noses. . . young men, hormones afire, likewise frustrated, escaping into sexual fetish and psychotic obsessions with demons, violence, blame, enmity. They are warriors for their own deformed ids.

It's starting to feel sad...

67 posted on 09/30/2025 2:20:34 PM PDT by GOPJ (Charlie Kirk worried democrats would murder his children-no face pictures <P><I><B><big><center></B>)
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To: blackdog

My take away from The Walking Dead was to be prepared to fend for myself. The nihilists want anarchy. They won’t like it when they run into prepper types.


68 posted on 09/30/2025 7:08:34 PM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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To: MtnClimber

ping


69 posted on 10/01/2025 6:32:38 AM PDT by dennisw (There is no limit to human stupidity )
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To: Wallace T.
Your scenario might have been possible if level heads had prevailed.

I just reread "The Guns of the South" by Harry Turtledove a few weeks ago.   What if...

70 posted on 10/01/2025 10:10:58 AM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: PGR88

Correct. The south wanted to leave. The anarchists just want to murder us and rob our corpses. Nothing deeper than that.


71 posted on 10/01/2025 10:30:13 AM PDT by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”)
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To: MtnClimber

ping for great justice!


72 posted on 10/02/2025 6:20:30 AM PDT by dennisw (There is no limit to human stupidity )
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73 posted on 10/02/2025 6:24:45 AM PDT by dennisw (There is no limit to human stupidity )
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