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What Charlie Kirk got wrong about Black women [Notre Dame student]
The Observer ^ | 9/16/2025 | Zora Rodgers

Posted on 09/16/2025 8:14:19 AM PDT by simpson96

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To: simpson96

“Additionally, Joy Reid went to Harvard for her undergraduate degree. Michelle Obama went to Princeton and Harvard Law School. Sheila Jackson Lee went to NYU, transferred to Yale, and later attended UVA Law School. Ketanji Brown Jackson attended Harvard University for her undergraduate degree and Harvard Law School. Charlie Kirk attended Harper College for one semester before dropping out. Why was he challenging the intellectual competency of these Black women when they have run educational laps around him?”

Maybe because their words and actions belied any claim to intellectual competency thereby proving that affirmative action did not protect the best and brightest Black women from real life discrimination in education but ignored their lack of merit in some Leftist numbers game.


21 posted on 09/16/2025 8:28:29 AM PDT by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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To: simpson96
Additionally, Joy Reid went to Harvard for her undergraduate degree. Michelle Obama went to Princeton and Harvard Law School. Sheila Jackson Lee went to NYU, transferred to Yale, and later attended UVA Law School. Ketanji Brown Jackson attended Harvard University for her undergraduate degree and Harvard Law School.

What an incredibly wretched choice of examples to demonstrate the intellectual prowess of black women. To hold these pathetic creatures up as paragons of black female cognitive excellence is insulting to black women generally. They're MORONS.

Hey, Zora! What. Is. A. Woman? Your hero Ketanji doesn't know. Do you?

22 posted on 09/16/2025 8:29:05 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: FenwickBabbitt

Charlie was a voracious autodidact. Which makes him better than the rest.and propelled him to debate anyone to keep building his arguments.


23 posted on 09/16/2025 8:31:10 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: simpson96

This whole piece is so distorted, I wonder if Charlie’s estate can sue for defamation? There was a clearly defamatory piece on him in The Nation that desperately deserves a lawsuit. This article in The Observer could possibly be a contender too. The big German propaganda network ZDF has repeatedly vilely slandered Charlie, so that should definitely be on the defamation suit list (and that after a decade of the most absurd and outrageous overt propaganda against Trump that you’d almost think is a parody done up as “news”). The Canadian CBC might also fit. I suspect there are numerous, numerous other outlets that can be added to the suits, once the estate gets properly established.


24 posted on 09/16/2025 8:33:19 AM PDT by FenwickBabbitt
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To: Bon of Babble

Thank you for that.

They’re doing the same thing to Charlie that they’ve done to Trump. They change the words he actually said, to something that fits their agenda. They do not quote these men directly. They take part of it, twist it around, and then call it a quote, which it isn’t. It’s a misrepresentation of what they said, and they pass it along over and over.

Here’s a clickable link of that piece for those who don’t want to copy and paste into their browser.

https://notthebee.com/article/wapo-writer-complains-about-being-fired-for-making-up-fake-quotes-in-article-about-charlie-kirk


25 posted on 09/16/2025 8:38:12 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: Dr. Sivana
"..better the employment and educational opportunities of
marginalized groups such as ethnic minorities and women."

Never any explanation on why named groups are "marginalized".

Could it be lack of initiative of named groups?

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink." (author unknown)

26 posted on 09/16/2025 8:38:41 AM PDT by chief lee runamok ( Le Flâneur @Large)
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To: simpson96

Another self-loathing white theater twat.


27 posted on 09/16/2025 8:39:03 AM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (Je suis Charlie Hebdo et Charlie Kirk!)
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To: stanne

I seriously question ND being Catholic. CINO: Catholic In Name Only...


28 posted on 09/16/2025 8:39:59 AM PDT by 7.62mm ("Quis costodiet, ipsos costodes?" (Who then, shall guard the guardians?)Juvenal, Satires 6, Line 347)
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To: simpson96
I was vaguely familiar with Kirk for his controversial right-wing extremist takes...

Extremist? Obviously this clown never watched Charlie speak on a campus. I've watched hundreds of his videos and I'm hard-pressed to see how anyone who has seen him and still has one neuron firing can label him a "right-wing extremist". This was spoon-fed to her by some Leftist and she took it in without checking for herself. Yet another dunce...

29 posted on 09/16/2025 8:41:29 AM PDT by econjack
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To: FenwickBabbitt

Obviously she doesn’t grasp that affirmative action actually deprives the deserving of recognition, because it undermines recognition of merit. Instead of being spotted because you stood out and rose above the crowd with hard work and study, the crowd has been artificially brought up to your level and your accomplishments considered no more worthy of recognition than those who didn’t put in any effort, whose diplomas were just handed to them to avoid hurt feelings. Your degree looks just like the next one.

Does anyone have a link to the video of this discussion? I have had libs bring this up before and figured it was a misrepresentation of what he said but have never seen the video.


30 posted on 09/16/2025 8:43:08 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustmilents offered here free of charge)
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To: Flatus I. Maximus

Full of lies and hate, the entire article is an embarrassment to the university and to the Catholic Faith, promoting many factually false narratives and piling on ad hominins in the process.

The entire thing starts with the false premise of systematic racism and inherent white supremacy, what utter bilge.


31 posted on 09/16/2025 8:43:35 AM PDT by Skwor
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To: simpson96

She is lying about what Kirk said.


32 posted on 09/16/2025 8:44:09 AM PDT by Reddy (BO stinks)
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To: Aria

“There are plenty of really intelligent black women who don’t need DEI. They should be promoted - not the PC blacks propped up by DEI.”

And those are the ones hurt most by DEI, because they’ll be invariably assumed to have gotten their job via DEI.


33 posted on 09/16/2025 8:48:15 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they. control you. )
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To: simpson96

“Black women have been devalued, degraded and unfairly depreciated. It is a common saying in Black households that Black women must be “twice as good” to be awarded half as much as their white counterparts.”
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If by “twice as good” she means having half of the grades and SAT scores, then she is correct. This is such BS. I went to an institution of higher learning back in the 90s and our dean bragged about how 1/3 of the student body was black. It was obvious that many of these black students were over-matched, so they engaged in group therapy. When they flunked classes, they started blaming it on the “white curriculum” and biased white professors. Many would have been much better off at a lower tier school.


34 posted on 09/16/2025 8:49:46 AM PDT by bort
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To: dfwgator

More bull shit from the lefties, f them.


35 posted on 09/16/2025 8:51:02 AM PDT by kenmcg (ti hi o)
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To: simpson96
Why was he challenging the intellectual competency of these Black women when they have run educational laps around him?

Here, she accidentally reveals the truth of Charlie's argument. These women might have obtained these educational credentials, but they don't have the intellectual abilities of Kirk, a community college dropout.

The only flaw in Charlie's premise is that it was more likely that the black women took the spot that might have gone to Asian students.

It was also sort of amusing to see Rodgers add that quotas are against the law in light of the recent revelations of various college administrators admit that they have subtle ways of hiding their continued use of DEI programs in a disguised way.

36 posted on 09/16/2025 8:53:31 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: FenwickBabbitt

Zora kind of reminds me of Jessica Tarlov. Taking untrue things and insisting they are true because she read it on the internet or a left talking point memo of the day.


37 posted on 09/16/2025 8:53:34 AM PDT by Trumpette1954 (Live laugh love!cper)
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To: simpson96

Zora Rodgers is a foot soldier in the massive blue army that the education sector produces.
Any liberal cause or crusade resonates with them, while non liberal movements repel them.

They’re the backbone of the woman, beta male, gay, minority, foreigner, environmental zealot party known as the democrats.


38 posted on 09/16/2025 8:54:09 AM PDT by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. )
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To: Campion

It is a Catholic institution

It is consecrated to Our Lady

Notre Dame

It has been spiritually neglected. Overrun

Parents think it will instill Catholicism in their kids. That’s why it was taken over. For destruction


39 posted on 09/16/2025 9:02:58 AM PDT by stanne (Because they were mesmerized by Obama, the man for whom this was named, whose name they left out of )
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To: 7.62mm

CINO is Catholic

They have not declared that they are not Catholic. Parents are wise to steer clear as it has been overrun

People need to wise up that’s all


40 posted on 09/16/2025 9:04:10 AM PDT by stanne (Because they were mesmerized by Obama, the man for whom this was named, whose name they left out of )
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