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Sting wrote the lyrics but Summers and Copeland made the music and where ripped off by Sting, back in the day (1980s). Why were these two so stupid to allow this?
These rip-offs were common. But in this day and age they get reviewed by courts, with many songwriters having to share their songwriting royalties going forward. Screw Sting, he has not put out anything good since 1990s Ten Summoners Tales.
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Ten Summoner’s Tales is the fourth solo studio album by English musician Sting. The title is a combined pun of his family name, Sumner, and a character in Geoffrey Chaucer’s The Canterbury Tales, the summoner. Released in 1993, it explores themes of love and morality in a noticeably upbeat mood compared to his previous release, the introspective The Soul Cages, released in 1991 after the loss of both his parents in the 1980s.
This album contains two US hits; “If I Ever Lose My Faith in You” reached No. 17 on the Billboard Hot 100 while “Fields of Gold” got to No. 23.[22]
Ten Summoner’s Tales was shortlisted for the 1993 Mercury Prize. In 1994, it was nominated for six Grammy awards including Album of the Year (losing to Whitney Houston‘s The Bodyguard), winning Best Engineered Album, Non-Classical, Best Male Pop Vocal Performance (”If I Ever Lose My Faith in You”) and Best Long Form Music Video, while “If I Ever Lose My Faith in You” was also nominated for Record and Song of the Year.
Pay up or do a reunion tour :)
Dana Carvey: Sting is the hippest name, let’s face it. The guy named himself a verb, present tense. ‘Cause he’s not Stung, and he’s not Stinging, he’s Sting. Y’know? It’s so cool. I admire that. His real name, as you might know, is Gordon, and he changes his name to Sting? Who’s got the balls to tell their friends to call them Sting? At one point, he had to remind people:
[in British accent]
Dana Carvey: “Uh, excuse me, from now on, um, would you mind calling me Sting?”
Dana Carvey: “F___ you! Yeah, my name’s Bite and this is my buddy Scratch. Now get me a beer, Gordy.”
Dana Carvey: “Sorry, two Coors Lights coming right up. I’m gonna grow up and be a rock star, you’ll see! I’ll be watching you....watching you.”
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Well, that all depends upon the size and extent of the new country you are attempting to establish.
So I guess that means a reunion tour is out of the question?
I’m only familiar with two things he’s done...Spirits In The Material World and the acoustic version of Fields of Gold.Both great,great songs.
So, the Police are going after him?
If people are asked, the answer is generally about twice what they currently have.
Even at their peak there was a lot of friction among everyone. Not surprised it’s reared it’s head again all these years later.
I have no dog in this hunt and I don’t know contract law in the UK, so I don’t have an opinion.
However, I’m a big fan of “if it isn’t in writing, it didn’t happen.”
“So I guess that means a reunion tour is out of the question?”
No grueling tour needed. Police just need to do a 20 date residency at the Sphere in Vegas. Then 5-10 nights residencies in NYC, London and a German city. They could easy gross profit 300 million dollars...or more.
Though this time around they should bring some supporting musicians to fill in the sound. Like The Who and Rolling Stones do.
"Spirits In The Material World" released in 1981 was their artistic peak. During that time, they were selling out stadiums all around the world. It's a shame they couldn't hold it together as they would have dominated the 1980s and 1990s.
They quit at the right time, like The Beatles did.
You get a run of seven years, before you turn into a nostalgia band.
It's interesting how different bands approach this issue. In the case of the Beatles, Lennon and McCartney agreed to share songwriting credits while the band was together, regardless if either one wrote the entire song. The Doors shared credits on everything with everyone in the band, though Jim Morrison wrote most of the lyrics. (A notable exception was Light My Fire, written by their guitarist Robby Krieger).
Not sure what the law is here, but it would seem to me that if Copeland and Summers allowed Sting to keep the rights to the songs, that's a bad move on their part.
Isn't there two different kinds of royalties? Composer (or lyricist) and performance royalties? You would think the band would get something.
Fields of Gold accoustic sounds a lot like Marshall Crenshaw’s cover of Dylan’s My Back Pages.
He’ll be 74 in a month. Good luck to him, getting all that stash in the coffin.
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