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The Ukrainian special forces unit that crushed Putin’s surprise advance
Telegraph UK Yahoo News ^ | 8/24/2025 | AUDREY MACALPINE

Posted on 08/24/2025 12:06:56 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: Paul R.
If that’s the case, Putin really screwed his own pooch.

He may have gained some land, but he ends up with Euro troops right on that border, and Euro-NATO defense spending more than doubled.

From the Russian point of view, they need Ukraine as a buffer state.

But Putin is failing to do that.

41 posted on 08/24/2025 9:55:31 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Owen

EVENTUALLY, this thing has to evolve to the point of peacekeepers in Ukraine, because Trump seems to have too much of his own reputation at stake to not get there. IMO, he will gradually increase pressure until something gives.

Since the Euro’s are by themselves woefully inadequate @ present, pressure on THEM in the form of us basically telling them to get their **** in order to provide peacekeeping forces, even though we may not put it that way, is in order and will be for some time. It’s hard to see how the Euro’s become adequate in under 2 years or so.


42 posted on 08/25/2025 4:31:01 AM PDT by Paul R. (Old Viking saying: "Never be more than 3 steps away from your weapon ... or a Uriah Heep song!" ;-))
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To: Paul R.

There is another thread talking about Germany’s economy. They cannot afford peacekeepers. If they cannot afford peacekeepers Francis certainly cannot. Who does that leave?

I cannot imagine American troops being posted there. And I cannot imagine it even if there was a ceasefire. And frankly that doesn’t have to be ideological. We can’t afford it either. We’re running a 2 trillion dollar deficit and there’s no evidence of any substantial reduction in that upcoming.

It has been noted that terrorists have increased government revenue. That hasn’t reduced the deficit because government spending increased also. We can’t afford it, and almost certainly Trump is aware of it. Everything costs money. Even sanctions cost money. Trump went out of his way to mention specifically that just a few weeks ago.

There is no ceasefire so there are no peacekeepers. It’s probable that the only way a ceasefire could occur is conditionally and the primary condition would be no peacekeepers. Ukraine won’t accept that so there will be no ceasefire.

It’s time to accept the powerlessness of the us in this situation. You can do that quietly so that it does not have to be admitted we should be contrary to an awful lot of attitudes.


43 posted on 08/25/2025 6:07:33 AM PDT by Owen
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To: Paul R.

Sorry, my usual instances of voice to text get past spell checking.


44 posted on 08/25/2025 6:08:43 AM PDT by Owen
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