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If the Smithsonian Institution was more interested in promoting a patriotic version of U.S. history, would it put the Abolitionist Founding Fathers on display?
PGA Weblog ^ | 8/23/25

Posted on 08/23/2025 4:28:03 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica

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To: DiogenesLamp

So many myths. You are just full of them.


121 posted on 08/26/2025 11:34:28 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: DiogenesLamp

Obviously you didn’t like the two ultra-specific answers I provided.


122 posted on 08/26/2025 11:36:12 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot vote our way out of these problems. The only way out is to activist our way out.)
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To: jeffersondem

It was a sarcastic comment.


123 posted on 08/26/2025 11:39:27 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot vote our way out of these problems. The only way out is to activist our way out.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
It varied, depending on the good being purchased, but it ranged from 20% up to 50%, or thereabouts.

In 1860, tarrifs were lower than at any time in our history up until that point. And they would have stayed there if 11 southern states had not pulled out of the Union. With southern states voting, the Morrel tariffs would never had passed. Tariffs at that time represented 95% of Federal revenue.

So you can take your tariff argument and stack it up with the rest of your myths.

124 posted on 08/26/2025 11:57:09 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: ProgressingAmerica
Why are you incapable of saying in broad terms that the civil war is over there and the american revolution is over here, with their obvious and unmistakable distinctions?

The distinctions are imaginary, and the perception of distinctions is the product of a long running smear campaign against the Confederates.

125 posted on 08/26/2025 12:56:59 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Ditto
So many myths. You are just full of them.

Like what? I am unaware of any "myths" that I am full of.

126 posted on 08/26/2025 12:58:07 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: ProgressingAmerica
Obviously you didn’t like the two ultra-specific answers I provided.

In the context of the conversation we were having at the time, (which was about the meaning of Article IV, Section 2) you sound like you are trying to say there were lots of Zebras instead of Horses.

No. "Indentured servants" compared to slaves were akin to Zebras compared to Horses.

The Horses are numerous and dominant as a percentage, while the Zebras represent a tiny rare minority.

You are trying to pull a fallacy of composition. You think that by bringing up "indentured servants", you can prove that Article IV, Section 2 is about "indentured servants".

It's not. It is about slaves.

127 posted on 08/26/2025 1:05:53 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Ditto
In 1860, tarrifs were lower than at any time in our history up until that point.

You certainly are trying to milk that "tariff" word. As I said, the economic problems created by the North go way beyond just "tariffs."

Tariffs at that time represented 95% of Federal revenue.

Yes, I know, and the South produced 72% of them.

128 posted on 08/26/2025 1:08:25 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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“It was one of the Compromises made at the time. If you think it is pro slavery, why does it have a sunset written into it.”

That is an interesting comment. It doesn’t seem rhetorical or sarcastic.

How do you define sunset?


129 posted on 08/26/2025 2:17:25 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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