Where to start?
First, Obama and Biden, although stupid enough, in this case did not "set off a civil war in Ukraine." This is not a Civil War, it is pure and simple an unlawful invasion of a sovereign nation by a criminal state.
and start a proxy war with Russia
Is this a Civil War or a proxy war? Which do you say it is? Actually, it is neither. As noted it is not a Civil War and it is certainly not a proxy war with Russia. Our ally (yes, Ukraine is our ally) is at war with Russia a war in which it has many other allies besides United States, including much of Europe.
that Ukraine was destined to lose
If Ukraine is in fact destined to lose this war one can only note that its destiny has been rather effectively disguised for the last 3 1/2 years. As I noted in my first reply on this thread, Ukraine is not destined to lose merely because Donald Trump said they have "no cards to play"
In that first reply I also noted, "Putin is facing a crumbling economy, surging inflation, corruption without end in his military, stalemate as far as the eye can see, increased crippling international sanctions depriving him of what few Rubles he has left with which to wage war, and increasingly unsupportable human losses for no or little geographic gain." To ignore these facts that are fully supported by events and to claim the opposite without citing a single bit of evidence, must be described as willful denial of reality.
Consider a new piece of reality, Trump has flipped!
you believe Trump should continue and get the blame when Ukraine loses?
Many people accuse Trump of self seeking, of neglecting the national interest to pursue his own personal legacy. I do not do that, it would be the most damning judgment one could render against the man responsible for all our lives. Rather, I think that Trump is man enough to shoulder the responsibilities, as every other decent President before him has done, to play the cards previous presidents have dealt him. Every president inherits problems, often serious problems, his duty is to deal with the problems, not shirk them and blame his predecessor.
I think when Trump flipped to support Ukraine he shouldered his proper function in history.
