Posted on 08/05/2025 2:57:36 AM PDT by Olog-hai
“”Anyone who wants to hand out their own money to feed the poor is certainly welcome to. But to take other people’s money from them under threat of jail time if they don’t cough up taxes and then to use it against their wishes, is WRONG.””
Yeah, um.... I hate to break it to you, but.... the government I’m aware of... ie the US Federal Government... has been taking taxpayer money and using it against our wishes for DECADES. If you don’t know that, you haven’t been paying attention. What I’ve been talking about has more to do with a charitable, Christian attitude about the poor and those less fortunate... than about how government ‘already’ screws us daily by spending our money on things we don’t want.
“People are not so opposed to helping the poor as much as having the government extort the money from them in the form of taxes and then doling it out with no accountability or oversight.”
That is how I feel about it. Just like having a limit on how many fish you can catch a day. There is a good reason for it. Over fish it and they will all be gone and no one will get any.
If they are going to force us to buy a license to have that privilege then at least make sure everyone can catch some.
But with that said... Read through this thread, and previuos threads on the topic. They could really care less if folks starve to death just as long as they do not have to help in the least bit.
If folks were less selfish and more compassionate as a rule then the government would not have to force the issue... They will not even contribute to non profit food collection because it cramps their personal “lifestyle”.
“No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.” ~ Matthew 6:24
So,they’ll buy beer instead.🙄
Them doing wrong for a long time does not justify continuing to do it.
2 Thessalonians 3:10-12 For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat. For we hear that some among you walk in idleness, not busy at work, but busybodies. Now such persons we command and encourage in the Lord Jesus Christ to do their work quietly and to earn their own living.
With the amount of welfare fraud I've seen over the years, that is MOST of it.
And what exactly is wrong with giving people real food to eat?
Most churches can give out food and rescue missions, but they demand accountability and the welfare deadbeats don’t want that.
Soda is not food. Sweet treats should also not be allowed on food vouchers. The whole damn food voucher system should be reworked so no one really wants to stay on it. Help the needy with rice, beans, potatoes, veggies, some noodles, but for God’s sake don’t give them the whole grocery store. That’s the main cause of people taking advantage and staying on the system.
Let me share something that has caused me to hate many people over the years even those I used to call friends and family, Almost all of them conservatives and Christians. They would rather horde food and let it go bad and throw it away than to even consider “sharing” it with others or food banks while it is still good. They want to make sure if they can’t have it then no one gets it...
This place is full of those types... Going to the food bank, or getting caught “sharing” might tarnish their “societal status” in some way. Business is really bad, they would rather destroy food for the write off than donate it. No, I have been observing this for over ten years and could write a book about it based just on posts in this site...
I know you see it too. :)
“but they demand accountability.”
No, they force them to come to their services even if they are of another sect or even another religion altogether. And if they don’t they do not get food and they do not get a bed.
I have been there many times.
Unless a stop is put to that too.
Conflating SNAP recipients with Medicare abuse and farm subsidies muddies the issue. If the goal is fiscal responsibility, targeting soda purchases in SNAP is a symbolic gesture at best. Not a structural fix. Let’s not pretend it meaningfully addresses healthcare costs or agricultural policy.
In the old days they could only get things on a list. No prepared food, no non-food items like paper towels, tp, detergent, etc.
It was really good.
“”And what exactly is wrong with giving people real food to eat?””
You’re not getting what I’m getting at. It’s the slippery slope of green-lighting approval of Big “G” putting dietary restrictions on ANY of us. They will take it to the next level and beyond once the leftists/commies regain control. As a Conservative you should be for LESS government control. As a Christian I would think you would have a more charitable, Christian attitude for those relying on food stamps.
And let’s face it. Despite RFK Jr. trying to ‘make a name for himself’ by banning sugary sodas from SNAP... you have to know that there are other foods, much more damaging to people’s health if they have no impulse control. So where does it end? Banning any and all salty snacks? All packaged food, which contains unhealthy additives? Sure, it’s targeting poor people on SNAP now, but what’s to stop the left from saying “we need to ban these foods for everyone now”... for everyone’s health. Moochelle can even be rehired as their Food Nazi/Health Czar. You really want to open that door and make it easy for the fascist left? I sure as hell don’t. Meanwhile, the left will enable MORE welfare fraud ... even as they restrict what you and I are ‘allowed’ to purchase to eat. It’s their pattern of control.
When we are already slated to cut over a trillion from Medicaid and millions are projected to lose insurance the federal government has an absolute right to reign in abuse of its own subsidized nutrition program.
First we pay for your soda, then we pay for your diabetes. I’m sick of it.
“man you are not smart are you,...”
I simply asked a question.
Interesting that you immediately resort to an ad-hominem attack in your response. It doesn’t speak much for your character or intelligence. Your violation of a fundamental rule of orthography, the failure to capitalize the first word of a sentence, is a prime example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Be proud of yourself - you're honest!!!!!
I fell ya what, those were interesting days..
Now it’s a different kind of interesting
God bless
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