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10 Great American Novels
Jack’s Substack ^ | 6 Jul, 2025 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 07/07/2025 7:33:00 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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To: MtnClimber

It’s good to see freepers who don’t read past headlines actually are familiar with books

All sound suggestions here

I think I’ve read or perused all these

Roth is to me overrated and kind of pop lit

Nat Turner was a psycho butcher elevated by guilty stupid white people to Christ Floyd status
I’ll pass but decent black achievers never get elevated as such sadly

Instead fakirs and liars get sainthood

I lived four years in Faulkner land and knew two of his nephews well

He’s hard reading but his work stays in your head

Which u prefer is just taste

Absalom is gritty

Hemingway deserves something

I also like the early historical romantic writers some mentioned here


121 posted on 07/08/2025 11:40:53 AM PDT by wardaddy ( The Blob must be bled dry)
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To: ek_hornbeck

Pop lit


122 posted on 07/08/2025 11:43:57 AM PDT by wardaddy ( The Blob must be bled dry)
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To: wardaddy

I think Hemmingway was not mentioned in the article because most of his novels were set in Africa, Europe or the Caribbean. The article was about “Americana” novels which excludes many of the good suggestions about science fiction or foreign settings. It is interesting hearing about all of the suggestions anyway.


123 posted on 07/08/2025 12:35:34 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: wardaddy
Nat Turner was a psycho butcher elevated by guilty stupid white people to Christ Floyd status

There are some people on this site who hate the South and the Confederacy so much that they also think that Nat Turner is a hero. The irony is that if these same people were Nat's neighbors in 1831, their hero and his followers would have chopped them to bits too.

I lived four years in Faulkner land and knew two of his nephews well

Did they share any interesting anecdotes about their uncle? He was famous for his sharp tongue, starting with when he quit his job as a local postmaster, saying “I will be damned if I propose to be at the beck and call of every itinerant scoundrel who has two cents to invest in a postage stamp", to the various people in Hollywood that he alienated because he resented doing hackwork for second-rate movies to pay the bills.

124 posted on 07/08/2025 2:14:33 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: Rummyfan
I also found Moby Dick to be a rather long slog - there were individual passages and chapters that were inspiring and others that were just tediously (including a lot of outdated and completely incorrect information about whales). For a completely different side of Melville (social satire, dark humor), give some of his shorter works a try, especially his story "Bartleby the Scrivener" if you've never read it.
125 posted on 07/08/2025 2:22:45 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: detective
The Great Gatsby

Fitzgerald wrote about the unspoken truth of class barriers in America. We like to think that class isn't so important to Americans, and that makes class lines all the more disturbing when we encounter them, and see how powerful they can be. Today we see the arrogance of our elites in government, e.g., Epstein didn't have a client list, and especially the courts, e.g., you peons have no "standing" to contest a blatantly rigged election.

FYI, the scene where Gatsby first visits Daisy's house was lifted out of his 1922 short story Winter Dreams. Gatsby continues and further develops the themes of that work. It is worth reading for anyone who wants further insight into how The Great Gatsby evolved.
126 posted on 07/08/2025 2:34:28 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: wardaddy; MtnClimber

I found Faulkner tedious to read and gave up. But then I find many fiction writers tedious. I wouldn’t read a Henry James story if you put a gun to my head.

My taste in American fiction ran more like:

Ambrose Bierce
Flannery O’Connor
Edgar Allen Poe
Ray Bradbury
HP Lovecraft
Zane Grey

“It’s good to see freepers who don’t read past headlines actually are familiar with books”

That one amused me.


127 posted on 07/08/2025 3:40:13 PM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: Persevero

“Although an avid reader I too have attempted and failed Moby Dick three times. Sorry, it’s boring to me!!”

Short version: The whale wins.


128 posted on 07/08/2025 3:53:57 PM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: klgator; MtnClimber

“My favorite book of all time is Catch 22.”

That’s a great book. So is the 1970 movie. Sly, dark humor.

Heller had been a WW2 B-25 bombardier the same as Yossarian. Someone, maybe it was Heller’s son, figured out that all of his characters are based on his fellow aviators. There’s a good story about that somewhere online but I have no idea where I ran across it.


129 posted on 07/08/2025 4:04:03 PM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: MtnClimber
Lonesome Dove and Bonfire of the Vanities are truly great American novels. Top Ten? Well any such list is totally subjective but they are definitely in my Top Ten. Cormac McCarthy is just so… dark. I truly think he was disturbed. No Country for Old Men had some great lyrical passages…. But one has to work past the blood and gore. Is Anton Chigyur The Devil? You decide…
130 posted on 07/08/2025 7:24:49 PM PDT by Rummyfan ( In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.👨 )
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To: MtnClimber

Never read GWTW either. Although if the movie is anything to go by, Scarlett O’Hara is one of the greatest female characters ever.


131 posted on 07/08/2025 7:26:26 PM PDT by Rummyfan ( In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.👨 )
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To: MtnClimber

No Zane Grey? Jack London? Laura Ingalls? Thomas Pynchon? Hemingway? Ayn Rand? Dr. Seuss?


132 posted on 07/08/2025 7:32:46 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America.)
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To: Pelham; Mr. Mojo

Yes Zane Grey

If ray davies of the kinks wrote novels about England instead of songs
You feel like you’re really there in the late 1800s west with Zane

Clumsy analogy I know but Davies puts u there in song that same way


133 posted on 07/08/2025 11:46:02 PM PDT by wardaddy ( The Blob must be bled dry but don’t hold your breath )
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To: ek_hornbeck

Mostly the drinking and staying up late in Rowan oak Writing
A nice place
He was a known night writer
I’ve made out under the cedars that line the drive
It’s close to campus

and the 20 acre govt pot field

Rusty and I think Buddy

Great nephews

They drove Saabs which was cool in late 70s


134 posted on 07/08/2025 11:56:37 PM PDT by wardaddy ( The Blob must be bled dry but don’t hold your breath )
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To: MtnClimber

I should have read more in article


135 posted on 07/08/2025 11:57:27 PM PDT by wardaddy ( The Blob must be bled dry but don’t hold your breath )
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To: Pelham; wardaddy

NOVEL, n. A short story padded. A species of composition bearing the same relation to literature that the panorama bears to art. As it is too long to be read at a sitting the impressions made by its successive parts are successively effaced, as in the panorama. Unity, totality of effect, is impossible; for besides the few pages last read all that is carried in mind is the mere plot of what has gone before. ….The art of writing novels, such as it was, is long dead everywhere except in Russia, where it is new. Peace to its ashes—some of which have a large sale.

- Ambrose Bierce

(My compliments to your Am. fiction list)


136 posted on 07/09/2025 7:25:47 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo; wardaddy

Back in the ‘70s I bought a copy of “The Collected Writings Of Ambrose Bierce”.

Everything he ever wrote.

Occurrence At Owl Creek Bridge is of course his masterpiece, but much of his Civil War writing is excellent; Chickamauga being another one. Bierce was in the war and his stories had a undertone of sadness about them.

That book had an introduction by Clifton Fadimon, who was himself an interesting character:

https://www.college.columbia.edu/cct_archive/sep99/40a.html


137 posted on 07/09/2025 7:26:05 PM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: P.O.E.

“Jack London, Thomas Pynchon”

Gravity’s Rainbow held my rapt attention the first time that I read it. I think it’s probably still an excellent book but when I’ve tried reading it again my attention wanders. I’m pretty sure it’s not the book’s fault.


138 posted on 07/09/2025 7:35:47 PM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: Pelham

I like Bierce a lot, especially the comic writing such as “Negligible Tales” and “The Parenticide Club”.


139 posted on 07/09/2025 8:45:27 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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