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Speaker Johnson Says Elon Musk is ‘Flat Wrong’ About the ‘Big Beautiful Bill,’ Hopes To Talk to Him Today
American Greatness ^ | 4 Jun, 2025 | Debra Heine

Posted on 06/05/2025 5:27:11 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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To: Openurmind

How do you know that? Prove your assertion.


41 posted on 06/05/2025 6:35:43 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Paladin2

Despite no guaranties there is surrender & there is the fight.
The cowards never started, the weak die along the way. Only the strong survive.


42 posted on 06/05/2025 6:36:30 AM PDT by JayGalt (Fight! Fight! Fight!)
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To: Openurmind

No it doesn’t. Point some out please..


43 posted on 06/05/2025 6:37:03 AM PDT by JayGalt (Fight! Fight! Fight!)
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To: Raycpa

See my theory in Post #17.


44 posted on 06/05/2025 6:38:17 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim (Hail to Pitt!)
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To: Openurmind

“The lefty CBO [Congressional Budget Office] says extending the 2017 tax cuts (preventing their expiration) increases the deficit,” Miller wrote. “Some critics have seen this figure and claimed or implied the bill increases *spending.* Even according to CBO, the bill cuts spending over $1.6 trillion. So when a libertarian (eg [Sen.] Rand [Paul, R-Ky.]) attacks the ‘deficit’ impact of the bill they are attacking the tax cut.

“A second major point of confusion is what’s actually in a reconciliation bill. It is not an appropriations bill, or a general budget bill. It provides no funding or authorization for 99%+ of the operations of government. It was written not by appropriators but some of the most conservative members of the House. It has not a single Democrat provision or vote.”

The bill will “increase by orders of magnitude the scope, scale and speed of removing illegal and criminal aliens from the United States,” Miller wrote Tuesday, adding that now is “the only chance to pass these immigration enforcement measures with 218 [House Republicans] and 50 [GOP senators].”

In addition to the “most significant border security and deportation effort in history,” Miller said that the bill contains the “extension and expansion of the Trump Tax Cuts,” which he says is actually what the CBO is scoring – “not spending, TAX CUTS” – and the “largest welfare reform in history, CUTTING almost $2 trillion in spending (net).”

Miller also addressed critics of the massive measure who say the bill should be broken up into more manageable chunks.

“For those saying do separate bills, each would then require 60 votes (needing [Sen. Minority Leader Chuck] Schumer [D-N.Y.]) instead of 50,” Miller wrote. “Reconciliation is a special process each fiscal year where you can make fiscal changes with 50 votes. That’s why BBB is the vehicle for tax cuts, deportations and welfare reform.”

In the reconciliation process, Miller said, “you can’t make ‘discretionary cuts’ (eg the bureaucracy) just mandatory (eg food stamp reform).”

“Discretionary cuts happen through a separate process known as ‘rescissions’ (also 50 votes),” he wrote.

Miller wrapped up his Tuesday night thoughts on the BBB by saying it’s “the most MAGA bill ever passed by the House, and it’s not even close.”

“BBB was designed by President Trump and his allies in Congress to deliver on his core campaign pledges to voters and that is exactly what it does,” he wrote. “Certain libertarians in Congress, who are not MAGA, have their own agenda…and it’s not yours.”


45 posted on 06/05/2025 6:40:16 AM PDT by JayGalt (Fight! Fight! Fight!)
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To: dynoman

He doesn’t know jack schitt ...


46 posted on 06/05/2025 6:40:19 AM PDT by bankwalker (Feminists, like all Marxists, are ungrateful parasites.)
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To: dynoman

Do you actually believe all those launches are just Starlink? He was tapped to put up a spy satellite network for the Pentagon and Intelligence agencies years ago now... We are only hearing about it now. I can’t even imagine what they are now doing we do not even know about... Does the military and intelligence agencies have black budgets and secret programs? YOU BET! A fact that absolutely cannot be denied.

https://www.news18.com/tech/musks-spacex-is-building-spy-satellite-network-for-us-intelligence-agency-8820367.html

https://www.airandspaceforces.com/space-force-contract-spacex-starshield/

https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/musks-spacex-is-building-spy-satellite-network-us-intelligence-agency-sources-2024-03-16/

Now you prove to me the government is absolutely honest and would never hide operations from us...


47 posted on 06/05/2025 6:51:09 AM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: JayGalt

“No it doesn’t. Point some out please..”

You are not objective and didn’t want me to talk to you remember? So I will not, your mental firewall is up anyhow.

You are anther one of the psyop “Gatekeepers” around here...


48 posted on 06/05/2025 6:55:41 AM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: MtnClimber

I’m with MUSK!


49 posted on 06/05/2025 6:58:57 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience..H)
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To: Sacajaweau

Every DOGE CUT SHOULD BE A SEPARATE BILL.


50 posted on 06/05/2025 7:01:41 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience..H)
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To: MtnClimber

If Musk, an insider who is smart enough to understand what he knows, is not “aware” that he BBB is really good for us and sort of saves money, what does that tell us about Congress ability to either communicate the truth or if they are telling the truth at all?

I listened to Johnson on AFR yesterday and he sounded squishy, said he would better inform Musk about the BBB. Why doesn’t he inform the rest of us too?


51 posted on 06/05/2025 7:01:43 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Donald John Trump. First man to be Elected to the Presidency THREE times since FDR.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Every DOGE CUT SHOULD BE A SEPARATE BILL.


52 posted on 06/05/2025 7:01:50 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience..H)
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To: MtnClimber

Unless Congress and the President are willing and able to reverse the Congressional Budget Act of 1974 and all of its many amendments there is not one chance in hell to reform spending in this country. CBA ‘74 makes that somewhere between very hard and impossible, impossible is more likely.

CBA ‘74 generally causes a doubling of federal spending in excess if inflation every 24 years and Congress only option is to stop it. and they have not for decades. Without their action it happens automatically.

Zero base budgeting is the only hope and it is a slim hope what with entitlements. Congress has no will to add years to qualifying for medicare and SSI as they did 15 or so years ago. Just adding another two years to each would get the US over the hump on those items but each year that goes by without action makes hope fade quickly.


53 posted on 06/05/2025 7:10:50 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Donald John Trump. First man to be Elected to the Presidency THREE times since FDR.)
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To: napscoordinator

Don’t ya love that Elon? Saving the first amendment I had to hear from everyone

Now the constitution can take a back seat to his money rolling. And out for everyone to see and be hypocritical about


54 posted on 06/05/2025 7:14:50 AM PDT by stanne (Because they were mesmerized by Obama, the man for whom this was named, whose name they left out of )
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To: MtnClimber

There is tons of pork in that bill that is not necessary.

Polidiots claim the Senate is hamstrung by procedural issues, but all that pork is not required.


55 posted on 06/05/2025 7:29:45 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Sequoyah101

“If Musk, an insider who is smart enough to understand what he knows, is not “aware” that he BBB is really good for us and sort of saves money, what does that tell us about Congress ability to either communicate the truth or if they are telling the truth at all?

I listened to Johnson on AFR yesterday and he sounded squishy, said he would better inform Musk about the BBB. Why doesn’t he inform the rest of us too?”

Excellent questions.


56 posted on 06/05/2025 7:32:28 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: CodeToad

They better get a handle on the spending before the interest on the debt exceeds the national GDP.


57 posted on 06/05/2025 7:35:50 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

My fear is that they are telegraphing their moves loudly, and those moves are hyperinflationary.


58 posted on 06/05/2025 7:36:51 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Openurmind

LOL. I think your prior responses to me speak for themselves. When you make statements that are untrue or are not fact based I will continue to point them out. If you have a succinct cogent reply I am ready to hear it.


59 posted on 06/05/2025 7:37:34 AM PDT by JayGalt (Fight! Fight! Fight!)
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To: Sequoyah101

He did, Steven Miller did too as did Bessent. If people don’t listen there’s nothing else that can be done. Sometimes lies resonate louder than truth.


60 posted on 06/05/2025 7:39:06 AM PDT by JayGalt (Fight! Fight! Fight!)
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