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Sen. Rand Paul blasts away at antisemitism speech bill
Responsible State Craft ^ | May 7 | Jack Hunter

Posted on 05/11/2025 8:07:00 AM PDT by RandFan

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To: TheThirdRuffian

Maybe the Jews in Israel can quit putting people into Concentration camps and killing them? How is what they are doing any different than the Nazis? OK, not as big in scope, but it is the same general plan.

Keep in mind that I could care less what the Jews do IN GAZA, nor would I have cared what Hitler did to the Jews in various places. Life on planet Earth is like that, people get power, abuse power and kill people. It is the RESPONSIBILITY of the US govt to protect Americans from that happening. Not responsible for the world, and never can fix it. It is a money hole, and things keep getting worse. Do you know what is worse? We then drag home the problem people to our country, and they keep fighting here too.

The USA is not God, it is not on the side of God. He can take care of his own, and does. The US thinks it is god, and gallops over the entire world fixing things, but doesn’t take care of it’s own country correctly.


21 posted on 05/11/2025 9:32:26 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts
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To: Bookshelf

Hate speech and hate crime is a stupid idea and law.

Is anyone less dead if the killer did not “hate” them?

Punish evil action not words.


22 posted on 05/11/2025 9:32:42 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isnt free)
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To: Jim W N

The spending of us taxpayer money is a federal issue.

Period.


23 posted on 05/11/2025 9:33:18 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown)
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To: RandFan

Rand needs a judge in his pocket that can simply kill the bill.


24 posted on 05/11/2025 9:34:36 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The road is a dangerous place man, you can die out here...or worse. -Johnny Paycheck, 1980, Reno, NV)
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To: Glad2bnuts

At least your posting name fits so you’ve got that going for you.


25 posted on 05/11/2025 9:36:19 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The road is a dangerous place man, you can die out here...or worse. -Johnny Paycheck, 1980, Reno, NV)
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To: Bookshelf

“...We need to challenge hate with reason, not censorship.” Oh yeah. That really worked with Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Franco, Mao, Bin Laden...

How did America help with any of those problems. Sacrifice OUR lives, the grunts who don’t skip war. Keep in mind that Bin Laden was in Iran, and the US govt knew this. What was the actual thing that the US won, an actual physical positive out of all the warring? Debt, and loss of stature.

When a country goes out looking for monsters to slay, it is lost....maybe forever.


26 posted on 05/11/2025 9:37:33 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts
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To: TheThirdRuffian

And unconstitutional federal spending is a legal issue and must be stopped.

Remember, THE CONSTITUTION is the Supreme Law of the Land OVER the feds (US Const., Art. VI, Cl.2).


27 posted on 05/11/2025 9:45:51 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: RandFan

After one group is ‘protected’ there will be another group with special protection, then another until only white Christian men remain.


28 posted on 05/11/2025 9:47:10 AM PDT by Doctor Congo
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To: Glad2bnuts

Israel has bent over backwards, and been too nice..THEY SHOULD HAVE LEVELED GAZA TO TJE GROUND. Netenyahu has been far too weak.


29 posted on 05/11/2025 9:50:48 AM PDT by cowboyusa
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To: RandFan

Guess I must have missed Paul’s irateness when thousands of J6ers were charges for expressing their free speech rights or those arrested for peacefully demonstrating outside abortion clinics or the individual who’s meme got his falsely convicted and jailed..


30 posted on 05/11/2025 9:52:01 AM PDT by falcon99 ( )
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To: RandFan

Criticism is protected by the 1st Ammdement. Incetment to vilonce is not.If the bill is to broad, than it should be rejected.


31 posted on 05/11/2025 9:53:34 AM PDT by cowboyusa
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To: RandFan

You can’t reason with Muslims. As for leftists, they are the antithesis of reasonable. But this is all because of our immigration policies of the last 20 years or so. Cultural clashes of immigrants is a big factor that led to the downfall of Rome.


32 posted on 05/11/2025 10:02:37 AM PDT by MikeyB806
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To: RandFan

Rand does have a point, yes.
Free speech is a founding principle of our country.

BUT... we are not talking about “Free speech” on these campuses. Not
in anything approaching the pure and lofty implication of that phrase.

We are witnessing organized mob incitement, harassment, intimidation, threats, and yes in some instances even violent physical assaults -— these are criminal acts in any decent society including I believe all 50 USA states.

If we are only experiencing a peaceful, civilized speech or debate ... one lacking the threats, mob intimidation, etcetera....and a civil speech WITHOUT the provocations, “fighting words” (which are already illegal, of course), then I would agree with Senator Rand.

He is fighting for an ideal concept (one which I, support and agree with). But, regrettably, he is not addressing the actual problems we are confronted with out here “in the real world.”

Respectfully,
fhc


33 posted on 05/11/2025 10:42:32 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Glad2bnuts

I agree. If we were to jail folks who riot for a long long time or at least huge civil fines and jail and wealth rescision for those who fund them, then we can protect speech like this. But it always goes way beyond speech to threats and intimidation of others. Maybe charge them with extortion and blackmail if rioters make demands to get something unwarranted and illegal in exchange for not burning down the rest of your city.


34 posted on 05/11/2025 10:54:22 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: RandFan

He’s right on this.


35 posted on 05/11/2025 11:02:40 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: RandFan

And here all along I thought he was an anti Semite.


36 posted on 05/11/2025 11:10:43 AM PDT by roving
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To: Glad2bnuts

“ Maybe the Jews in Israel can quit putting people into Concentration camps and killing them”

lol. Any other lies you believe, Mohammed?

By the way, allah is not God. He was a figment of mohammed’s imagination or even a demon. Mohammed was not a prophet, but a pedophile, a thief, a liar, a murderer, a con man and a general piece of shit.


37 posted on 05/11/2025 11:12:18 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown)
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To: RandFan

Question:
Does enemy propaganda have freedom-of-speech” protection?


38 posted on 05/11/2025 11:29:19 AM PDT by leopud
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Yeah, I know Mohammed likely never existed, and the totality of Islam is a lie. That has nothing to do with how badly Israel is treating human beings. Not that I care, it is not my business. It is not the business of the United States of America. Israel is NOT OUR ALLY. What have they ever done or could they do to assist the US? They are peanut in an elephant herd.


39 posted on 05/11/2025 5:44:28 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts
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To: RandFan

He’s right. The first amendment was not created to protect acceptable speech.


40 posted on 05/12/2025 7:01:42 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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