Posted on 05/05/2025 10:46:28 AM PDT by nickcarraway
“Please Don’t Ask” was another song that came out of Phil’s divorce at this time and was probably intended for his solo album, but Genesis needed a filler for their Duke album and it ended up there. Purists hate it but Duke is underrated.
I was just thinking the other day of the greatest music and composers who ever lived was during the classical period, almost 300 years ago. It’s been a steady decline ever since.
whenever I hear that song I think of Mike Tyson in The Hangover
Surely you mean Baroque Period!
I always find the stories about “how stuff was done” to be interesting. More often than not they come from someone “messing around” with the tools at some earlier point—and then they draw on that memory when it suits a new need.
I always told my kids that when you really understood your craft—no matter what it is—that only then could you “break the rules” to do something special.
I did that in my business career and also in my photographic career. When it works…it’s fulfilling. When it doesn’t…well, that is why there is a delete button.
You don’t always have to “like” the result…but appreciating the process is part of life.
“Please Don’t Ask” was another song that came out of Phil’s divorce at this time and was probably intended for his solo album, but Genesis needed a filler for their Duke album and it ended up there. Purists hate it but Duke is underrated.
Heathaze is one of my favorite Genesis songs.
I would say boring is a good description - I guess a good background song when you are doing other things...
Hugh Padgham produced Face Value, and the Peter Gabriel “Melt” album.
Padgham also produced a couple of XTC albums, including Black Sea.
There’s a similar kind of drum sound on XTC’s “Travels in Nihilon”.
Huh? I don’t get it. It is boring as all get out. The out of this world drum bit sounds worse than construction workers across the street hammering. The lyrics are on rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat.
He produced the final two Police albums.
Yep, he did amazing work back then.
At the time I found the music boring, but seeing the vid of this live performance recently changed my mind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYV6KZpnEak
I don't mean anything, I'm just trying to point out that the composers of many, many, many years ago, regardless of which period, will never be equaled.
If it’s not Baroque, don’t fix it!
Ha! The story is: Phil Collins saw a guy kill somebody but the guy didn’t know he saw him do it. So Phil always sent the guy a ticket to a front row seat at his concerts. The guy finally showed up and sat down and that’s when Phil sang the song to him and let him know that he saw what he did, saw it with his own two eyes.
The guy ran away and Phil Collins was arrested for not calling the police but inviting a murderer to front row seats at all his shows. Now you know the rest of the story.
There’s a similar kind of drum sound...
Some sort of reverse talkback circuit they claim. I guess the story is legendary by now.
https://youtu.be/1nEpVDJyGNw?feature=shared
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