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There Are EVs And There Are Teslas. They Are Not The Same.
american thinker ^ | 3/25/2025 | M.Walter

Posted on 03/25/2025 1:06:48 PM PDT by from occupied ga

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To: minnesota_bound

4 gallons of gas has more stored energy then the entire battery pack of the electric Ford F-150.


61 posted on 03/26/2025 12:33:53 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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4 gallons of gas has more stored energy then the entire battery pack of the electric Ford F-150.

AND it doesn't take hours to fill 4 gallons at the pump

Though to be fair modern ICE engines only convert about 33% of their energy to useful work.

However, since EVs are usually charged at night that means the bulk of their electrical energy is coming from fossil fuels, nuclear and hydro So the coal plant that also runs 30-40% efficient loses at least 8% of its power as do all forms of generation just getting it from the plant to the house. And according to Google charging an EV loses another 20% for level 2 charging. So getting to the charged battery you have .4*.92*.8=.29 So of your energy content of fossil fuel 29% gets into the battery. EV drive train losses run 10%-25% if we hit a midpoint of 17% multiply that .29% by .83 and get 24.4% round to 24%. In reality EVs burn fossil fuel less efficiently than ICE cars.

Now some on EV shills here will mention that our generation mix is nationwide 60% fossil fuel. So what? The fossil fuel you burn is still only burned at 24% efficiency from fuel to road. Now add in that EVs are heavier for the same passenger capacity and you end up with even less efficiency efficiency. and although windmills are 10% of the nation's nameplate capacity, on average they only run 25% of the time and of course solar doesn't work at night when most people like to charge their EVs. End the subsidies. End the ridiculous "green" restrictions on coal plants and let the marketplace decide. If you like them by all means buy one, but don't go around telling everyone else how great they are.

62 posted on 03/26/2025 3:56:09 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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MotoTrend magazine is where the 4 gallons info comes from.

Tow No! The Ford F-150 Lightning Struggled in Our Towing Test
We towed 3100-, 5300-, and 7200-pound travel trailers with Ford’s electric truck and didn’t get very far from home.
Eric Tingwall Writer Jim Fets Photographer Jul 31, 2022
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/ford-f150-lightning-electric-truck-towing-test/

Before you hitch an Airstream to your electric truck ... you need to understand this: With the largest available battery pack, a fully charged 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning electric truck has less energy onboard than a regular F-150 with four gallons of gas..”
https://www.reddit.com/r/electriccars/comments/wg9shl/is_this_motor_trend_quote_accurate_before_you/


63 posted on 03/26/2025 5:14:36 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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Even worse than I calculated. Only a virtue signaling moron would buy battery powered truck.


64 posted on 03/26/2025 6:45:13 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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