Wisdom, Health, Protection from Evil
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Posted on 03/20/2025 12:25:35 AM PDT by dennisw
What Grok3 has to say about Donald Trump, his connection to Norman Vincent Peale and Positive Thinking.
Never heard of that before.
Interesting. The left had everyone believing that Trump had never stepped foot in a Church before, and that he was spiritually illiterate. Yet he grew up in the Church hearing the Word.
But...
Marble Collegiate Church was more of a populist, self-help-oriented church than a strictly Scripture-based one. While part of the Reformed Church in America, Peale emphasized positive thinking and personal success over deep biblical doctrine.
His approach blended faith with motivational psychology, making the church widely popular but raising concerns about its theological depth.
Yes, “believe in yourself” isn’t biblical.
Yep. The power of positive thinking, even in a non-biblical sense, is real, but it can’t compare to the power that comes from deep faith in God—a faith rooted in a deep understanding of Scripture.
I have always believed in the power of positive thinking, but I can happily acknowledge that faith-based positivity can lead to true miracles. I have witnessed many such miracles.
To begin to understand the above article, skim through the Wiki article on NVP. Illuminating, to say the least. NVP was just as bad for religion as Benjamin Spock was to psychiatry, both very successful con artists that disliked each other’s methods.
(from another thread thought I’d bring it here)
I’ve been pondering this verse lately:
Daniel 12:3
Evangelical Heritage Version
3 Those who have insight will shine
like the Brightness of the Sky,
and those who bring many to Righteousness
will shine like the stars FOREVER and EVER.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel%2012%3A3&version=EHV
Much better to have a President raised in a church with Positive Thinking preaching than one who attended the “haste Whitey, God Damn America” preaching.
Much better to have a President raised in a church with Positive Thinking preaching than one who attended the “haste Whitey, God Damn America” preaching
That is “Hate Whitey!”
The Power of Ethical Management Hardcover – February 11, 1988
by Norman V Peale (Author), Ken Blanchard (Author)
https://www.amazon.com/Power-Ethical-Management-Norman-Peale/dp/0688070620
“The number’s can all be right, and the decision still be wrong.”
I have it in my library.
” NVP was just as bad for religion as Benjamin Spock was to psychiatry”
Yeah; he was a grifter.
“PRAY for President Donald Trump”
I woke up in the night and had a feeling to do exactly that — so I did for a long time. Things are pretty dicey now, and scary.
Jesus was not a self-help guru.
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That’s a great way to sum it up..
Make America Great Again is at that root..
Norman Vincent Peale is also the godfather of the Charismatic movement, more particularly their NAR eschatology, a combo of preterism and postmillennialism. The NAR charistmatics are the strongest supporters of Trump’s policies overseas.
Amen to that.
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