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Why fire crews weren’t on site when an American Airlines plane landed at DIA before catching fire
2 WGRZ ^ | March 15, 2025 | Rhea Jha

Posted on 03/15/2025 7:32:48 AM PDT by george76

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I’m having a hard time with the pictures of those passengers standing on the wing of a plane that is on fire. The wing where in unknown thousands of gallons of jet fuel is stored.

This would have been an horrific event had the fire made it to that wing . . .


21 posted on 03/15/2025 8:34:24 AM PDT by MCSETots
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To: george76

Sigh. Jet aircraft buyers, jet aircraft makers, jet engine makers . . . all trying to squeeze by . . . using synthetic (non-metal-alloy) “composite” fan and turbine blades.


22 posted on 03/15/2025 8:35:16 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: HighSierra5

MAYBE this was just to let Sean Duffy LOOK BAD! a WOMAN”S VOICE???


23 posted on 03/15/2025 8:36:46 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: MCSETots

BINGO!! UNCREDIBLY STUPID!


24 posted on 03/15/2025 8:38:26 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: george76

It’s Denver, for goodness sake...
Why any big surprise at a normal Denver CF?


25 posted on 03/15/2025 8:41:53 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is rabble-rising Sam Adams now that we need him? Is his name Trump, now?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Just put it on the news. Quinnipiac will take a poll showing that 60% of the boneheads living in this country agree with every lie the far left “media” vomits at them. They lick it up as fast as the RAT liberals can vomit it at them.


26 posted on 03/15/2025 8:42:31 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The commie pig, Ellissa Bumpkin, says Americans brains are not fully developed. She can KMA.)
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To: george76
I remember visiting the tower, in days gone by, when ATC used binoculars to observe every arriving and departing aircraft . . . in addition to using other tools for "observing" and managing arrivals and departures.

27 posted on 03/15/2025 8:43:44 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: george76; CodeToad

It is a pilot (Captain) judgement call. I’ve had engine vibrations before and have not declared an emergency, it just depends. If I were in this scenario, I probably, at the least, would have kept the engine running (depending on other engine indicators), reduced to either idle or where the vibration diminished or stopped. Easy to judge from behind the computer.


28 posted on 03/15/2025 8:44:22 AM PDT by GMThrust
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To: george76

This is completely inexcusable.


29 posted on 03/15/2025 8:45:39 AM PDT by rdcbn1 (TV )
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To: KTM rider

Unless the Captain declares an emergency or asks for ground assistance, they will not roll the fire trucks.


30 posted on 03/15/2025 8:46:19 AM PDT by GMThrust
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To: PGR88
It sounds like they are saying the plane pulled up to the gate next to the jetway? That’s not the video I saw… looked like they were out on the taxiway to me.

I couldn’t believe it when I saw the video. Why were NO doors opened or slides deployed?I could understand the rear doors not being opened, as that was the direction the fire/smoke was moving, but no reason the front doors were not opened. We were always taught to continue monitoring your exit because the conditions will change and an exit blocked by fire or smoke can become available. The overwing exits were initiated by a passenger…not sure of the AA jump seat layout, but usually no crew member is posted over wing.

I don’t know who this “aviation expert” is, but under no circumstance do you “wait for the jetway (or stairs) to pull up” before you evacuate the plane! The only time you evacuate off stairs or bridge is if they are already attached. What I saw was people standing on the wing and waiting for the jet stairs to pull up to the wing. Were the flaps not dropped so people could slide off? I thought that was the pilot responsibility? Not ideal, as it’s a long drop, but better than burning alive.

I don’t know…every plane accident is different and things are going to go wrong. When I was flying and SWA slid off the end of the runway at Burbank, we covered that crash in recurrent. They lost both rear exits because the FA didnt shove that door hard enough and the slide pack fell into the galley and inflated, blocking both exits. one of the front slides landed on a fire hydrant, rendering it unusable. so they had only one slide and the overwings to evacuate that aircraft.

31 posted on 03/15/2025 8:48:45 AM PDT by ponygirl (Stay gold.)
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The article was poor writing and lazy journalism.

As you point out - the plane was not at a gate. The doors should all have operable slides. why didn’t they deploy during this emergency?


32 posted on 03/15/2025 8:56:45 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: george76
Suggestion for the FAA and the NTSB: given the advances in camera technology, why not mandate the manufacturers install cameras so the flight crew can actually see the engines and fight surfaces? As planes are currently designed, those areas are blind spots to the flight crew, and they cannot make accurate decisions based on knowing what the problem is that the aircraft is experiencing.

I have small, inexpensive cameras all around my house - so I know what's going on at all times. Isn't the safety of the passengers worth the investment?

33 posted on 03/15/2025 9:00:19 AM PDT by Chainmail (You can vote your way into Socialism - but you will have to shoot your way out.)
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To: pfflier

Airplanes are designed to deplane all passengers with half of the emergency exits blocked.


34 posted on 03/15/2025 9:00:55 AM PDT by vaskypilot
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To: george76

Just a quick read-thru of the article and it sounds like nobody is really at fault and everything went as it should given the circumstances. There was no fire until they pulled up at the gate and so no emergency was declared. The wing exit was the best way out due to the heat and smoke at the other exits.


35 posted on 03/15/2025 9:09:05 AM PDT by Drawsing (Fools show their annoyance at once, the prudent man overlooks an insult. Proverbs 12:16)
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Passengers were seen evacuating onto the left wing of the aircraft, a rare event in commercial aviation... Aviation Expert Greg Feith said only half of the plane’s eight exits were usable due to the fire and the aircraft’s position at the gate.

Proximate cause: Failure of the pilot to evacuate on the runway at wheel-stop.

I can't wait to find out why he/she was prompted to roll to the gate while under confirmed fire emergency.

36 posted on 03/15/2025 9:11:13 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: CodeToad

No, it doesn’t. See #36.


37 posted on 03/15/2025 9:12:58 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: ponygirl

Lots of confusion on this one. Looks like the walkway was hooked up to the air aircraft when the fire started. The aircraft may have been “off” because flaps have to set at 40 degrees for the wing exits to be operated safely on that version of the 737-800 since there are no slides..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9zzt9bNKQ8


38 posted on 03/15/2025 9:12:59 AM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: logi_cal869

Alright. It seems the early report by CBS (below) that I saw was egregiously in error.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5vGO654pcI&t=24s

The plane was diverted due to engine vibration, not fire, landed without incident and taxied before smoke then fire.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2025/03/13/american-airlines-plane-fire-denver-airport/82386037007/

Gotta love these asshat ‘journalists’...


39 posted on 03/15/2025 9:18:36 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: george76

“The plane was diverted with no explanation,” a spokesperson for DIA said in a statement.... “Because the flight was diverted due to an engine vibration.....”

Diverted to where?

What kind of plane?


40 posted on 03/15/2025 9:27:26 AM PDT by Thank You Rush ( )
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