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Why the COVID Deniers Won
The Atlantic ^ | 2/12/25 | David Frum

Posted on 02/22/2025 12:49:10 PM PST by DallasBiff

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To: DallasBiff

Shouldn’t Frum go back to Canada to enjoy the last days of Trudeau’s governorship?


41 posted on 02/22/2025 1:47:36 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: 9YearLurker

they targeted law enforcement, military, and hospital employees...


42 posted on 02/22/2025 1:56:29 PM PST by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁 )
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To: DallasBiff

Because the lies eventually caught up to the alarmists. The good news is that it gave us RFK Jr at HHS and others who will exile them into irrelevance.


43 posted on 02/22/2025 2:01:50 PM PST by Ford4000
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To: ASOC

J&J was just as much an mRNA vaccine as the others.

Only Novavax was somewhat traditional.


44 posted on 02/22/2025 2:02:38 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: DallasBiff

The elephant in the room is the hypocrisy of Fauci and Brix. They lied and their behavior was not consistent with the ukase they were issuing.


45 posted on 02/22/2025 2:08:03 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets
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To: Huskrrrr
“The calvary ain’t coming to save you.” James Carville

Actually it already has. Now the guys on horses won't be saving you.

46 posted on 02/22/2025 2:09:42 PM PST by xone ( )
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To: DallasBiff

I’m going to my annual VA medical exam next week.
I’m a slightly disabled Vietnam era Vet.
A nurse called me, which is unusual as they usually wait till we show up for our appointments fro these questions,
Do you want a COVID shot?
Do you want a pneumonia shot?
Do you want a flu shot?
My answer was No!
I explained that like most Vets that got more shots
than we could count most the shots made us sick.
BTW My first UN shot card was so full I had to get
a second one.
Unless is is a well proven and tested shot like
Smallpox, or a plague shot, I’m not interested in
it.
I’ve already had COVID and survived it with a big attenuation of my sense of smell and taste.
At my age I don’t need blood clots.
I’ve had Pneumonia before and survived it.
They don’t even know which flu you are going to
catch so why get sick from a shot?
Typically( from anecdotal comments)
Most Vets are like me.
Other than being slow sometimes,
the VA has dramatically improved in the last few years.
Thank you all.
Kind of self serving as I pay Federal income taxes,
as do you


47 posted on 02/22/2025 2:10:37 PM PST by rellic (No such thing as a moderate Moslem or Democrat )
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To: ASOC

No one in my family took the vaxx nor have most of us taken any flu shots in a couple of decades- me since my Air Force induction in 1966. We all ingest vitamin D3 supplements daily and have been virus, including WuFlu, free since 2004.


48 posted on 02/22/2025 2:14:02 PM PST by arthurus (covfefe ,ix!')
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To: DallasBiff
Girl in a jacket
49 posted on 02/22/2025 2:16:36 PM PST by yuleeyahoo (“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!” - the deep-state)
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To: DallasBiff

An awful time, and for me an awful lesson in herd mentality. There were people who actually shunned me because I would not get the shot, people who got very agitated (a few, hysterical) when I tried to reason with them about the covid hype and the questionable vax. And I am not a confrontational sort.
The worst were the people whose intelligence and life wisdom I respected. They got the shot, the boosters, and all got covid. Some suffered lasting damage (clots, bleeding guts, pulmonary embolism, heart inflammation) which they blame on covid, never the vax.
Being in my 20’s, entirely healthy, I had a very mild case lasting 3 or 4 days. Apparently it left me immune because over time I took care of several relatives who got it and I never got a second episode myself.
To this day I see people wearing masks. It makes me sad.


50 posted on 02/22/2025 2:17:25 PM PST by Buttons12
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To: packagingguy

That’s because nothing, and nobody, not even a powerful government can stop a virus.

They moved the goalposts at every step of the way. “Two Weeks To Flatten The Curve” makes sense. The idea in an epidemic, is to prevent a large slug of infected sick people from presenting themselves all at once to Hospitals and overwhelming the system.

Then they just decided to quarantine healthy people instead of infected people. They did a complete 180 on dust masks, which are of no help against viruses. They decided that young people, pregnant females, everybody ladi-dadi should take an experimental emergency brand new technology vaccine, despite the fact it is illegal to compel anyone to participate in experimental medical trials.

Even supposed conservatives on this board tried to claim that being threatened with job termination was not coercion to take the jab. One of the most pathetic displays of cowardice I’ve ever witnessed.

“No one is being forced to take the Jab! You can quit your job and get another!” was the argument. I would be willing to bet a small sum this person may well be deceased by now.


51 posted on 02/22/2025 2:18:12 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: Tallguy

My wife, who is dealing with two types of cancer, asked her vascular specialist about the shots when they came out. He said she could take the shot that would give her a stroke or the one that would give her a heart attack. Most of my friends and relatives believed that taking advice from a life long government bureaucrat was the way to go. Their choice. It’s none of my business what medical advice they take but they sure gave me plenty. We both got covid, coughed for a few days, that was it. Yet it was fatal for some who were in great health. Go figure.


52 posted on 02/22/2025 2:19:37 PM PST by shelterguy
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To: DallasBiff

Frum is either fairly stupid, or something much more sinister.


53 posted on 02/22/2025 2:20:24 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: ASOC

I did not take the shots but the whole progression of the intense of the introduction and pushing of the disease and the vaxx have made me leery of anything that comes through a needle. I know a family with two children one eleven and the other 2. The first one got all her school required shots. The younger one will not get those shots and both are now home schooled due to skepticism about inoculations and now the parents really love the lifestyle changes that homeschooling of their children has made.


54 posted on 02/22/2025 2:21:02 PM PST by arthurus (covfefe )
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To: ASOC

I did not take the shots but the whole progression of the intense of the introduction and pushing of the disease and the vaxx have made me leery of anything that comes through a needle. I know a family with two children one eleven and the other 2. The first one got all her school required shots. The younger one will not get those shots and both are now home schooled due to skepticism about inoculations and now the parents really love the lifestyle changes that homeschooling of their children has made.


55 posted on 02/22/2025 2:21:04 PM PST by arthurus (covfefe )
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To: packagingguy
"The answer to this question is easy. The deniers were correct and you were wrong. Nothing that was recommended stopped the virus."

Yes. And despite that, my hospital is back to mandating masking.

I'd like to ask for evidence it works against viruses, but I can't afford to lose my job over it.

56 posted on 02/22/2025 2:23:43 PM PST by boop
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To: Pollard

I would rather be a “COVID denie” than a Suddenly Died syndrome statistic.


57 posted on 02/22/2025 2:24:23 PM PST by arthurus (covfefe -_- )
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To: KarlInOhio

The experts have not admitted the drawbacks of the vaccine. They are still winning.


58 posted on 02/22/2025 2:27:04 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Uncle Miltie

Truth has not come close to winning.


59 posted on 02/22/2025 2:27:32 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Tallguy

In my town there are enough people who refused to take the shots that many people who did noticed that the “deniers” did not get wet in the flood of new lethal conditions and are now fearful that their health future might be compromised due to the shots.


60 posted on 02/22/2025 2:33:05 PM PST by arthurus (covfefe -uo- )
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