Posted on 01/08/2025 11:52:55 AM PST by SunkenCiv
The Native Americans gave that to us unknowingly. We gave them smallpox on purpose.
The entire pre-Columbian population is estimated to be 50 million.
The total death toll from tobacco so far is estimated to be 300 million.
Not true.
Back around 1968, Playboy Magazine had an article on the spread of syphilis from the time Columbus’ ships landed till it overspread Europe in just a few years.
I remember reading another article of various forms of VD I have never heard about in the original printing of EVERYTHING YOU WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT SEX (But were afraid to ask)
From AFRTS Radio SE Asia....”Here are your numbers for today...18 72 53 106 43....”
Reminds me of here in 1962 when VD was unknown. Then came the sexual revolution and within ten years anyone who picked up a skank at an Oklahoma line bar came down with Clap, Crabs, or Syph, and later AIDs.
I am reminded of 1968 Okinawa! Prostitutes everywhere!
One day a typhoon hit Guam! all the aircraft and ground crews were transferred to Okinawa and they hit Koza City like a hurricane since there are no available women on Guam.
Then it all blew over.
Two weeks later I am sent to Guam with my aircraft. As I go to the medical facility to turn my medical records I pass a long LONG line of sad faced airmen at the VD clinic. Wonder where they picked that up.
I worked with an airman who had been all over SE Asia had many dalliances yet never came down with anything!
Then he picked up a girl at the bus station in HOPE, Arkansas (Bill Clinton’s home town). He had a great time! Two weeks later.....”drip drip drip.”
***But some people have denied it because they thought that the truth would besmirch the reputation of the indigenous Americans. ****
Sad but true. Back in the mid 1960s began the revision of the American Indian into a “noble Savage” who never scalped, tortured, and only did the Happy Dance with his neighboring tribes till the EVIL White Man came along. It was written into movie scripts and TV shows of the 1970s. Real archaeologists knew this was not true but were threatened not to reveal their findings. Then came the discovery of the Crow Creek Massacre and later the Sacred Ridge Massacre. Yet people today still believe the benevolent Native narrative.
Here is a list of links I have found over the years. Some were said to be “fakes” in the 1970s but have been found to be truthful.
How the tribes treated each other before the White Man arrived.
https://archive.news.wsu.edu/press-release/2014/08/04/wsu-researchers-see-violent-era-in-ancient-southwest/#.U9_iumNjYzJ
Last days of the ancient Pueblos.
https://blairmastbaum.substack.com/p/the-terrifying-final-days-of-the
Crow Creek Massacre.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/9/crow-creek-massacre-in-1300s-remains-south-dakotas/
https://www.academia.edu/7907221/Mass_Grave_at_Crow_Creek_in_South_Dakota_Reveals_How_Indians_Massacred_Indians_in_14th_Century_Attack
Sacred Ridge Massacre.
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/massacre-sacred-ridge
Human sacrifice at Cahokia
https://www.ancientpages.com/2015/08/27/human-sacrifice-at-cahokia-victims-were-locals-not-foreign-captives/
Ancient Massacre Discovered in New Mexico — Was It Genocide?
https://lostworlds.org/ancient-massacre-discovered-in-new-mexico-was-it-genocide/
Anasazi Cannibalism
https://archive.archaeology.org/9709/newsbriefs/anasazi.html
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-antiquity/article/abs/additional-evidence-for-cannibalism-in-the-southwest-the-case-of-la-4528/FB7F8B0434EA3118B716AE84EC368DC8
Basketmaker II Cave 7: Massacre or Cemetery?
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0305440312000829
New Research Supports Theory of Ancient Massacre Site in Utah
https://www.cityweekly.net/BuzzBlog/archives/2013/09/11/new-research-supports-theory-of-ancient-massacre-site-in-utah
Massacre at Awatovi is little known act of genocide
https://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/trail_dust/trail-dust-hopi-massacre-at-awatovi-is-little-known-act-of-genocide/image_830b57c1-78ad-5775-8b72-ed47dd6aba23.html
How genocide wiped out a Native American population
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna39268873
Isotopic and genetic analyses of a mass grave in central California: Implications for precontact hunter-gatherer warfare
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26331533/
Buried with their MOTHERS’ SKULLS:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3280870/Why-4-300-year-old-bodies-buried-EXTRA-skulls-500-graves-unearthed-California-showing-signs-bizarre-burial-rituals.html
And who can forget the Cherokee Slave Rebellion of 1842.
https://www.okhistory.org/publications/enc/entry?entry=SL002
How Native American Slaveholders Complicate the Trail of Tears Narrative
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/how-native-american-slaveholders-complicate-trail-tears-narrative-180968339/
And not a white man around to blame it on for centuries.
oh they knew
Smallpox on purpose? No one knew what caused smallpox as virus and bacteria were unknown! The causes of disease were thought to be ..
1. Bad Air
2. Star alignments and horoscope.
3. Sorcery
4. Witchcraft
5. Hexes.
Here is one actual transmission of smallpox to a tribe.
https://www.historynet.com/smallpox-in-the-blankets.htm
“But the chain of events behind the one authentic case of deliberate smallpox contamination began in 1757 at the siege of Fort William Henry (in present-day upstate New York), when Indians allied with the French ignored the terms of a surrender worked out between the British and the French, broke into the garrison hospital and killed and scalped a number of patients, some of them suffering from smallpox. The blankets and clothing the Indians looted from the patients in the hospital and corpses in the cemetery, carried back to their villages, reportedly touched off a smallpox epidemic.”
***The entire pre-Columbian population is estimated to be 50 million.***
I don’t know about South America but the carrying capacity of the land for a hunter gatherer people in North America would not exceed and was probably far less than one million people. They kept themselves in “check” very well.
:^)
Montezuma’s Revenge, the Revenge!
“””” We gave them smallpox on purpose.””””
We did?
List of food plants native to the Americas, may God bless them!
A number of popular and commercially important food plants are native to the Americas. Some are endemic, meaning they occur naturally only in the Americas and nowhere else, while others occur naturally both in the Americas and on other continents as well.
Northern highbush blueberry
When complete, the list below will include all food plants native to the Americas (genera marked with a dagger † are endemic), regardless of when or where they were first used as a food source. For a list of food plants and other crops which were only introduced to Old World cultures as a result of the Columbian Exchange touched off by the arrival of Christopher Columbus in 1492, see New World crops.[1]
Grains
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Quinoa is native only to a relatively small region of the Andes mountains in South America
Corn/Maize[2] (Zea†)
Quinoa[3] (Chenopodium)
Several (though not all) species of amaranth[4] (Amaranthus)
Some species of wild rice (Zizania)
Indian Corn (Flint Corn)
Legumes
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Peanut[5] (Arachis†})
Pinto, tepary, black, kidney, navy, scarlet runner[6] (Phaseolus coccineus) and lima beans[7] (Phaseolus†)
Nightshades
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A variety of tomato cultivars
Cubanelle peppers
Potato[8] (Solanum)
Tomato[9][10] (Solanum)
Bell and chili peppers[11] (Capsicum†)
Tomatillo[12] (Physalis philadelphica)
Fruits
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Apple guavas
Pineapple[13] (Ananas†)
Guava[14] (Psidium† and Acca†)
Passion fruit[15] (Passiflora)
Papaya[16] (Carica† and Vasconcellea†)
Cherimoya,[17] sugar-apple,[18] hog plum, and soursop[19] (Annona)
Pawpaw[20] (Asimina†)
Dragonfruit/pitaya[21][22] (Hylocereus† and Stenocereus†)
Concord grape[23] (Vitis)
Huckleberry[24][25] (Vaccinium and Gaylussacia†)
Several (though not all) species of:
Strawberry[26] (Fragaria)
Blueberry[27] (Vaccinium)
Cranberry[28] (Vaccinium)
Raspberry[29] (Rubus)
Salmonberry(Rubus)
Oregon grape(Mahonia)
Thimbleberry(Rubus)
Mayhaw(Crataegus)
Blackberry[30] (Rubus)
Plum[31] (Prunus)
Black cherry[32] (Prunus)
Chokecherry[33] (Prunus virginiana)
Hawthorn Berry[34] (Crataegus)
Staghorn Sumac[35] (Rhus typhina)
Prickly Pear[36][37] or Cactus Pear (Opuntia ficus-indica)
Allegheny Barberry
Bearberry (Manzanita, Kinnikinnick)
Black Chokeberry (often called Aronias, due to confusion with chokecherry)
Deerberry
Lingonberry
Swamp dewberry (various species of Rubus, distinct from Raspberry, Blackberry, Salmonberry, Thimbleberry & Cloudberry)
Several native species of Ribes, comprising Red Currants, Black Currants, Golden Currants and Gooseberries
Hackberry
Multiple edible species of Viburnum, including Highbush Cranberry (Trilobum), Blackhaw (Prunifolium), Nannyberry (Lentago), and Mooseberry (Edule)
Various species in the Prosartes line, usually called Fairybells.
Mayapple
Virginia Persimmon and Texas Persimmon
Rosehips, or fruit of various wild Rosa species.
Sand Cherry
Fruit of select species of Aralia, also usually known as Spikenards, such as Racemosa. Not all species have safely edible fruit.
fruits of the Gaultheria plants. Procumbens fruit is known as Teaberry, whereas Shallon is known as Salal and Hispidula is called Moxie Plum.
Ogeechee Fruit. Most prized species of Tupelo for edibility, though all native Tupelo species have edible fruit.
Gum Bully Olives, aka American Olives
Beautyberry
Buffaloberry
Multiple Sambucus species- particularly Canadensis and Cerulea. Red Elderberry species are not considered safely edible.
Red Mulberry
Honeyberry is the only known edible species of Honeysuckle
Nuts
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Peanut[38] (Arachis†) commarode Peanuts
Cashew[39] (Anacardium†)
American chestnut
Pecan[40] (Carya)
Black walnut[41] (Juglans)
Brazil nut[42] (Bertholletia†)
Butternut[43] or White Walnut (Juglans cinerea)
Many species of Acorns - seeds of the genus Quercus Oak
American Hazelnut
Root Vegetable
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Camas - several species of Camassia, also known as Hyacinths.
Cassava - also known as Manioc or Tapioca. Native to Amazon. Domesticated and cultivated in South America, Central America and Caribbean.
Indian Potato - roots of two native species- Apios americana and Apios priceana
Jerusalem artichoke - specific species of sunflower with large, edible root.
Lily Bulbs- several species in Lilium family
Oca - specific species of Oxalis, or Wood Sorrel with large edible root.
Tobacco Root - (species of Velerian, not actual tobacco)
Wapato - several species of Sagittaria
Wild Onion - several native species, such as Ramps and Meadow Garlic
Wild Sweet Potato - roots of several native species of Ipomoea, also known as Morning Glory
Yampah - several plants in the Perideridia family. Leaves also used as spice.
Other
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Cocoa[44] (Theobroma†)
Vanilla[45] (Vanilla)
Jicama[46] (Pachyrhizus†)
sunflower[47] (Helianthus†)
Avocado[48] (Persea)
Agave[49] (Agave†)
Pumpkin and squash[50] (Cucurbita†)
Chayote[51] (Sechium†)
Chia[52] (Salvia)
Maple Syrup[53]
Honey[54] (Melipona, Apis nearctica)
Yaupon[55] (Ilex vomitoria)
See also
There is correspondence between army officers regarding taking linens from smallpox wards in hospitals for use with the Indians.
Bless them for what?
Historians dispute there is proof of such claims.
Some don’t think Apollo landed on the moon.
Actually historians say you are full of it about the left’s claims of America passing out diseases to indians, and they do not deny the moon landing.
Just as historians say Syphilis came from the indians and that indians were scalping long before the white man, there are a lot of myths from the left.
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