It's standard police procedure, has been for decades. Only way to immobilize truly bad guys.
Posted on 12/18/2024 4:01:35 AM PST by MtnClimber
Yeah, you’re a koo koo.
Have a great day!
Most people just believe everything that they've been told, and don't bother to go find out the truth themselves.
I'm sorry you listen to and believe the media-liars. Hopefully you will grow out of it.
Both autopsies are available online and neither one says what you say.
You’re wrong, you’re a liar, or you’re both.
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He was "tried" by an idiot jury, terrified of the threats from the crowd outside who threatened to kill them if they didn't come to the "right" conclusion.
Trial should have been moved elsewhere, but our courts are filled with incompetent idiots and liars, so of course they didn't do the right thing.
Second one is utter lies and garbage. It was bought and paid for by a greedy family smelling money.
It should not be given any consideration at all.
The First autopsy said his level of fentanyl was way over the fatal dosage.
Kneeling on a neck *WILL NOT KILL* someone. We've had Freepers conduct this test themselves, and they didn't die from having someone kneeling on their neck.
*THEREFORE*, the claim that Chauvin killed him is a lie, and is only believed by stupid ignorant people who want to believe it, and who are incapable of grasping the truth of the matter. Primarily because they don't want to understand the truth.
They *WANT* Chauvin to be guilty, so they have to believe he killed Floyd, despite what the evidence shows to the contrary.
It's like the OJ Simpson Jury. They want a certain outcome, so they just ignore the evidence.
The second autopsy was conducted by Dr Michael Baden. He was a very high profile forensic pathologist, as can be seen from the Wikipedia article on him, but there is also a lot of criticism of him in that article.
That article points out that, when he conducted his autopsy on Floyd, the evidence available to him “did not include a toxicology report or unspecified bodily samples”. I can’t remember where I saw it, but I have seen a claim that he did not have Floyd’s heart, or at least not the diseased portions thereof, which would be a very serious omission, and means that we cannot have any confidence in his conclusion that “Floyd had no underlying medical problem that contributed to his death.” That is just not true.
In a fortunate coincidence, I happen to have a statement Dr Baden made on “Larry King Live” on August 5, 2002 when discussing the Samantha Runnion kidnapping and murder: “When the passions of the community and the district attorney and the prosecutor are so raised in a case, one can get a false verdict.” So true in the Floyd case.
And he gave an example (this is still from Larry King Live):
“We had another case outside Chicago some years ago. A little girl, Nekariko (ph), was forcibly abducted from her home, brought to the woods, raped and murdered. And two people were falsely convicted, were on death row for something like 13, 14 years. And it turned out because of the community passions that police, prosecutors and forensic scientists got caught up in, and gave false results. It turned out clearly they were innocent, they were released. DNA proved somebody else was the perpetrator who has never been arrested for it, as I understand. And I think that there is a real danger in these most heinous of cases for mistakes to be made. And we have to calm our passions, as horrible as this crime is.”
And Larry King then gave an example of his own: “We have the famed Pittsley (ph) case in Florida. They were on death row for many years for a crime they did not commit based on overzealousness.”
Baden’s example was the Jeanine Nicarico case in 1983, and Larry King’s example was the Pitts and Lee case in 1963.
Thank you for the information.
George Floyd had 11mg of fentanyl in him where less then 3mg would kill people. He is seen on video swallowing the fentanyl he was trying to sell to others who would probably die from it.
How many people had Floyd killed selling drugs to others?
One thing I do not understand.When he had Floyd on the ground. why didn’t he just handcuff him and roll him over on his side. That was the main reason he was convicted I believe. It was the appearance of him continuing to hold him down with knee on the neck knowing he was being filmed. It may not have been the cause of Floyd’s death but it was his attitude towards him that sunk him. The other officers were there could have helped him to constrain him with cuffs, and none of this would have happened.
I’m not going to argue this anymore.
Dr. Baden is paid for his testimony. The two autopsies were done by people with absolutely zero skin in the game.
You’re simply wrong. Floyd’s heart and the fentanyl contributed to his death, but what expedited his death was that he neck was compressed for a period of time that cut off his airway enough to stop his heart.
Do I think Chauvin should be in prison for as long as he’s been sentenced? No, but saying he didn’t kill Floyd is absolutely wrong.
Period, end of discussion.
I agree with you. But we have the benefit of hindsight. I’m trying to look at it from Chauvin’s point of view.
Floyd had been rightfully arrested, but he had put up a huge fight - he was really big and strong - and I’m sure Chauvin didn’t want to risk a repeat, so he was being extra cautious. He was using an approved restraint - approved because it’s not lethal - a method which he and his fellow-officers had probably used numerous time before without adverse consequences, so he probably justifiably had no concern for Floyd’s welfare from that restraint. And in case Floyd wasn’t still lying about not being able to breathe, an ambulance had already been called and would normally have already arrived. And I don’t think he was constantly looking at his watch, so he didn’t realize how much time had elapsed.
It’s easy for us to be wise after the event.
Pressure on the SIDE of the neck - which is what that method of restraint does - would NOT cut off the airway, UNLESS the pressure was so great that it would cause damage and NO damage was reported.
Sufficient pressure on his BACK, on the other hand, WOULD have prevented him breathing, which COULD have had the fatal effect you mention. Perhaps you know for how long the black cop was on Floyd’s back (see my posts 21 and 51).
The entire event is available for free viewing in a documentary called ‘The Fall of Minneapolis’.
The entire event is on a video that shows Chauvin kneeling on his neck.
I mean, you’re not convincing me that I have lying eyes, so just stop trying.
It's standard police procedure, has been for decades. Only way to immobilize truly bad guys.
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