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The incredible true story of a CIA plane crash in Death Valley National Park
SF Gate ^ | 12/15/2024 | Eric Brooks

Posted on 12/15/2024 2:46:03 PM PST by DFG

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To: DFG

Very interesting...I was going to say “out of Edwards AFB” no doubt and then I did what FReepers don’t usually do, I read the whole article.

Panamint Valley - was where Manson took his gang before they ended up back where he was finally arrested - a movie location in Chatsworth, CA if I remember right. A long time ago but I think I’m recalling it right...

This is some story - thanks for posting. Spent a lot of time at my husband’s folks place out in the Mojave Desert 20 miles east of Lancaster after they left the big city (L.A.) for peace and quiet after retirement. So secluded, you could sit on the front porch and someone would say, “didn’t that car go by here yesterday at this same time?” We went there for the peace and quiet from OC...

Their place was set on a high plateau and we could go out further and watch the Space Shuttle land...went out one evening for a night landing but couldn’t see much and it was mighty uncomfortable with whatever creatures were crawling around who liked to announce their presence with rattles! The paved road was warmth to them.

“”Please - can we leave and make it back to the house now?”


21 posted on 12/15/2024 3:55:57 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: ExSES

“Control surfaces were covered by fabric”

Thanks. Even in a metal fuselage aircraft in 1952?


22 posted on 12/15/2024 3:57:10 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (There are two ways to live your life: nothing is a miracle or everything is a miracle - A. Einstein)
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To: DFG

echo


23 posted on 12/15/2024 4:03:29 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: DFG

On Ft Irwin near Barstow, I found a projectile about 4ft tall standing perfectly on its base in the middle of the desert. No idea what it was


24 posted on 12/15/2024 4:21:24 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (If you're Black don't Vote Blue cuz then you'll just be Black and Blue)
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To: frank ballenger

Death Valley. One of the hottest and driest places on Earth.

Do you know what else is in Death Valley ?

An aquifer containing pristine pure water estimated to be the largest aquifer in the US. No one knows how deep or large this aquifer is.

So, Death Valley is the driest and the wettest spot in the US, and probably on the planet.


25 posted on 12/15/2024 4:29:13 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Be kind to unkind people. They need it the most.)
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To: frank ballenger

P.S. It’s called DEVIL’S HOLE, if anyone wants to look it up.


26 posted on 12/15/2024 4:31:57 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Be kind to unkind people. They need it the most.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

**Even in a metal fuselage aircraft in 1952?**

Yes. Fabric covered control surfaces was a very common sight metal aircraft during WW2. The Albatross was an amphibious craft built after the war, using proven designs. Though the jet age was underway, amphibs still needed to be slow for their designed job.


27 posted on 12/15/2024 4:48:16 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: VeniVidiVici

**On Ft Irwin near Barstow, I found a projectile about 4ft tall standing perfectly on its base in the middle of the desert. No idea what it was.**

Sounds like someone found it before you did, and thought, “If I see this thing again, I’ll know that I’ll have been walking in circles trying to get out of this desert”.


28 posted on 12/15/2024 4:56:23 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

They were fabric covered.


29 posted on 12/15/2024 5:05:25 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Those were canvas. Rotted away.


30 posted on 12/15/2024 5:30:11 PM PST by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI..)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Yes.... The much more modern pressurized B-29 even had those kind of surfaces. That Albatross was a 1949 design. Cheap, easy to repair, effective at prop speeds.


31 posted on 12/15/2024 5:36:27 PM PST by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI..)
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To: BipolarBob

You can watch a female that lives in at the edge of Death Valley in Tecopa, CA explore the wreck on her YouTube channel, Wonderhussy. She has also explored about every old miners cabin throughout the area.


32 posted on 12/15/2024 6:15:09 PM PST by Portcall24
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To: UCANSEE2

“An aquifer containing pristine pure water estimated to be the largest aquifer in the US.”

And where does all that water go? It goes by pipe to fill swimming pools and provide drinking water for Los Angeles, thanks to a fellow named Mulholland.


33 posted on 12/15/2024 6:21:14 PM PST by Portcall24
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To: DFG
Here's the type in a "before" photo:


34 posted on 12/15/2024 6:34:06 PM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too. 😁 " - Robert Conquest )
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To: Portcall24

Actually, the water comes from snow melt in the Eastern Sierra in the Owens Valley north of Death Valley.


35 posted on 12/15/2024 6:44:31 PM PST by Inyo-Mono
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To: Portcall24

Yes, I’ve watched a few of her videos. Adventurous, etc.


36 posted on 12/15/2024 8:04:59 PM PST by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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To: DFG

Lots of pictures of the wreck at this link... https://joeidoni.smugmug.com/Aircraft-Crash-Sites/Panamint-Range-SA-16-Albatross/i-kSwg74v


37 posted on 12/15/2024 9:34:13 PM PST by hecticskeptic
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38 posted on 12/16/2024 6:07:01 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Politics do not make strange bedfellows, and the enemy of your enemy may still be your enemy.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
“to save the stupid from themselves”
The number of stupid has risen in direct proportion to the rise of smart phones.

Lol. I hadn't noticed but I believe that you are 100% correct.

39 posted on 12/19/2024 12:31:47 PM PST by cloudmountain
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