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The decline of Star Wars
Spectator World ^ | 09/05/2024 | Alexander Larman

Posted on 09/05/2024 4:04:45 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Asokha was REALLY good.


21 posted on 09/05/2024 5:19:31 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: cowboyusa

The Empire had their own Military Industrial Complex.


22 posted on 09/05/2024 5:20:59 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind
I used to be one of the biggest Star Wars fans around. I did a LOT out of love for the saga. Even had a Star Wars-themed marriage proposal to my (now ex) wife. I've been able to meet most of the cast of the first two trilogies, including an afternoon spent with Carrie Fisher.

What Disney has done to the franchise, especially The Acolyte, turned me off of Star Wars forever.

Okay, not ALL of it. I still have the Blu-rays of episodes 1-6. But everything else is dead to me.

23 posted on 09/05/2024 5:22:29 PM PDT by Ciaphas Cain (A perfect storm. There will be no escape from what is coming.)
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To: T.B. Yoits

24 posted on 09/05/2024 5:22:45 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“You’ll laugh. You’ll cry. You’ll kiss three bucks goodbye....Hardware Wars!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccfbw2RJ3ow


25 posted on 09/05/2024 5:25:06 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Ha!


26 posted on 09/05/2024 5:26:01 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Has anyone else caught some of the Flash Gordon silver screen serials from the 1930’s and 1940’s?

So much of what is in those serials ended up almost straight-up copied into in the first three Star Wars movies by George Lucas. It’s kind of shocking actually.


27 posted on 09/05/2024 5:32:14 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: SeekAndFind

How can any discussion about when Star Wars hit the skids take place without the word “Ewok” front and center?


28 posted on 09/05/2024 5:36:32 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (7/13/2024:The day the Democrats and their SA chose assassination as their primary political tool.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I turned off Solo about 2/3 of the way through and never bothered to watch the rest of it. Seems like Rogue One was kind of okay. The rest were so lame that I can't remember which is which. I couldn't tell you what the plots were about.

I loved the original Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back. I even loved Return of the Jedi, although I do think that if I had been a little older when it came out I would have been more aware of the schmaltziness of the Ewoks.

29 posted on 09/05/2024 5:37:12 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: KarlInOhio

Those stupid Teddy bears ruined it for me.


30 posted on 09/05/2024 5:39:02 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

What puzzles me about George Lucas is that he created both THX 1138, which to me is a sophisticated and tasteful piece of art, and the horrible Star Wars prequels. It’s like, how could the same guy make both of these?


31 posted on 09/05/2024 5:42:53 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: monkeyshine

I think it is about power and a perceived need for revenge.


32 posted on 09/05/2024 5:45:01 PM PDT by alternatives?
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To: Jeff Chandler

That almost ruined it for me, and The Phantom Menace was the final nail. I stopped watching and never looked back.


33 posted on 09/05/2024 5:50:40 PM PDT by Windcatcher
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To: T.B. Yoits

The holiday special was tv only. The empire strikes back is objectively better than a new hope too.

The prequels started rough but episode 3 was very good.

The real downfall started right after the last medium. I didn’t hate it, but they had no ideas what to do with 9 and it really shows. Then Lucasfilm salted the earth by firing Gina carano and letting the shows become 100 percent girl power fever dreams. They also destroyed Indiana Jones so my hatred for Kennedy and Disney is boundless now


34 posted on 09/05/2024 5:52:06 PM PDT by Apinealgland 2
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To: SeekAndFind

My sons say it’s been all downhill since “Battlefront II” and “Knights of the Old Republic”, except for one that was okay but I don’t remember the name of it.


35 posted on 09/05/2024 6:32:44 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Sounds like a great idea, with the best of intentions. What could possibly go wrong?)
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To: alternatives?
Originally Star Wars main audience was nerdy boys and young men. That is who bought the Lego sets and other merchandise. Disney is producing products that cater to women and transexuals and turning off their core audience. I don’t think a software game with a female lead will be successful.

Boys cannot empathize with Female "Heroes." Boys want to imagine themselves as the hero, and if you make the hero female, you have just turned your core audience off to caring about what happens to your hero.

36 posted on 09/05/2024 6:49:26 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: CodeToad
If it weren’t for Marcia Lukas having reediting the movie...

She did Star Wars, and Empire Strikes Back. The only two good movies they ever made.

The teddy bear movie was just stupid.

Everything else was even worse.

37 posted on 09/05/2024 6:50:50 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
Boys cannot empathize with Female "Heroes." Boys want to imagine themselves as the hero, and if you make the hero female, you have just turned your core audience off to caring about what happens to your hero.

I did that subconsciously. Although Jennifer Lawrence was great in Hunger Games. That was a rare exception.

38 posted on 09/05/2024 6:52:08 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Apinealgland 2
The empire strikes back is objectively better than a new hope too.

No it isn't. While admittedly Empire is better than anything produced after it, it was a pale shadow of the masterpiece that was Star Wars.

39 posted on 09/05/2024 6:56:05 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: MinorityRepublican
I did that subconsciously. Although Jennifer Lawrence was great in Hunger Games. That was a rare exception.

I must admit there are a few exceptions. Ridley in Alien and Aliens, and Sarah Connors in the Terminator comes to mind.

But these aren't *GIRL POWER* bosses, they are ordinary people caught in a situation where they desperately fight for their lives.

Even Hunger Games is a similar situation.

But girl warriors? Doesn't resonate with anyone.

40 posted on 09/05/2024 6:59:41 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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