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How nice! Murdering Jews and Poles was actually humanitarian!

" “We can’t feed these people, we don’t have the food to feed these people.' And one of them actually says ‘Rather than wait for them all to slowly starve this winter, wouldn’t it be more humane to just finish them off quickly now?' ”

1 posted on 09/03/2024 11:35:58 AM PDT by Miami Rebel
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I have little doubt the author took no such position and is being misrepresented in the lame stream media’s eager desire to slur Tucker.


29 posted on 09/03/2024 12:12:00 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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Historical illiterate, just like leftist Douglas Brinkley. Two months *after* Barbarossa (invasion of USSR), Germany got “millions” who unexpectedly “surrendered” and they “had to put them in camps”? What does that have to do with millions of Jews from Poland, Germany, Hungary and France they put on camps before Barbarossa? Imbecile. No wonder he also has terrible grammar in his responses.


36 posted on 09/03/2024 12:22:19 PM PDT by montag813
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Good Lord.


37 posted on 09/03/2024 12:27:31 PM PDT by Fido969
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This guy obviously knows nothing about Churchill's motivation before and during the war.

Tucker should have asked him: Did you read The Second World War by Churchill, the five-volume book he got the Nobel Prize for writing? The one that describes in the first person what his thoughts, memos and activities were on a day-by-day basis in the months and years leading up to, and then during the entire war?

But Tucker obviously has not read it or he would have been all over this guy like hair on a gorilla for trashing Churchill in such an ignorant and childish manner.

Hitler's so-called peace offerings were in stark contrast to the reality of his actions in rearming Germany, propagandizing and whipping his people into accepting Total War, and then taking over the Rhineland, Sudetenland, Austria, and Czechoslovakia, all before attacking Poland and invading Holland and Belgium after the "Phony War".

The Brits all along after WW1 were putting their heads in the sand, hoping against hope that Hitler's designs were minor, like taking back Alsace-Lorraine and getting debt relief.

Churchill ALONE disabused them of their denial, awakened enough of them to reinvigorate the aircraft manufacturing industry and the other armed forces, conduct naval battles in the Channel and Atlantic to supply his island, and motivate the people to awaken and defend themselves.

Does this remind you of our current situation? It should.

The carpet bombing of German cities was not done until Hitler had done tremendous damage to London civilian districts. He dictated to his war cabinet, that the German people had been so propagandized into thinking that the Germans were slaughtering the English in the Battle of Britain, and were in fact suppressing the true news that the British were overpowering Goering's Luftwaffe with smaller (but growing) squadrons and superior strategy and technology. Churchill told his air marshals to bomb elsewhere in Germany from time to time, not always, so that the German people would know that the British were gaining control of the conflict.

But overwhelmingly the goals were manufacturing and military targets... and Churchills critics were quick to point out if he strayed and most British were against bombing civilian targets, being as civilized as they were.

41 posted on 09/03/2024 12:32:12 PM PDT by caddie
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Two words: MOLOTOV RIBBENTROP


42 posted on 09/03/2024 12:36:25 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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Historian David Irving, sold millions of books, spent decades in archives & getting confidential diaries from principal actors’ widows, wrote authoritatively about both Hitler & Churchill. Churchill’s villany, speech in Toronto 1986

Churchill nudist drunk coward art-forger worried about his historical legacy at cost of millions of lives, Indians consider him responsible for 2.3 million Punjabi starvation deaths 1928.

https://rumble.com/v2uiagv-david-irving-on-the-true-winston-churchill-toronto-canada-1986.html


55 posted on 09/03/2024 1:27:22 PM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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“Tucker starstruck..”

This is mostly a hit piece against Tucker Carlson.
I like Tucker.. he interviews people with unorthodox views and lets them talk.
I like that. I can judge for myself what I want to believe so I’d rather not have everything filtered so I only hear the orthodox views.

I’ll keep watching Tucker’s interviews.


56 posted on 09/03/2024 1:32:20 PM PDT by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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The blitz rolled in so fast before people could decide what to do they were already encircled and could not escape. Not sure they would have fared better with the Russians either even if they had got out.


58 posted on 09/03/2024 1:40:32 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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My recollection was FDR didn’t like Churchill either. FDR probably preferred Stalin.


59 posted on 09/03/2024 1:57:48 PM PDT by alternatives?
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“You know, Churchill’s the good guy, Neville Chamberlain’s the bad guy. You know it’s just, it’s too pat, it’s too, obviously, quite banal. But it also has justified, like, the killing of millions of people since the end of the Second World War. And so I do think it’s fair to ask like ‘What really was going on?’

Talk about word salad.


61 posted on 09/03/2024 2:23:07 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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All wars lead to atrocities.

Hitler and Germany bear the lion’s share of the condemnation for starting the war and intentionally exterminating millions in the holocaust.

Britain and America did intentionally target civilians in their bombing campaign.

Russia signed the pact with Hitler that allowed Germany to start the war, used its troops as cannon fodder during the fighting, and allowed their soldiers to rape German women.

The biggest strategic blunder was allowing Hitler to violate the weaponry limits Germany agreed to in the treaty ending WWI when Germany was weak. As each year of Hitler’s rule progressed Germany built more tanks, bombers, submarines, and battleships, and trained more troops, aviators, and sailors.

In 1936 German troops retook the Rhineland on a bluff.

In early 1938 Germany annexed Austria.

In the Fall of 1938 Germany threatened war if the Sudetenland wasn’t ceded to Germany by Czechoslovakia. Britain & France coerced Czechoslovakia into yielding.

In the spring of 1939 Germany took the rest of Czechoslovakia.

In August of 1939 Germany and the Soviet Union agreed to divide Poland between themselves.

In September 1939 Germany invaded Poland. Britain and France declared war. France had a large army. Britain did not. Neither of them could offer any aid to Poland.

Five and a half years of brutality and destruction took place until Germany could be defeated and its war criminals could be punished. The lesser war crimes of the leaders of the victors went unpunished.

Innocent people who had no significant role in the decisions and mistakes that caused the atrocities of WWII bore the brunt of the harm.

Have world leaders learned anything from the worst calamity suffered by the human race? Probably not. The escalation of the conflict between Russia and Ukraine is inching toward a wider war and possible nuclear weapon strikes. The mainstream trope that Russia is the bad guy and Ukraine a poor victim is fueling the escalation. What is needed is someone not hypnotized by this trope. So far, Trump seems the only leader of consequence that is willing to seek a less bellicose option. Yet, he is the one being vilified by the mainstream and targeted for assassination.

God help us all.


66 posted on 09/03/2024 3:09:56 PM PDT by John Semmens
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“So get back to your like your main question about Churchill. You know, if you go to 1939, when the Germans and the Soviet Union invade Poland, as soon as that war’s wrapped up on the German side, Hitler starts firing off peace proposals to Britain. France, because they had already declared war. He was, he didn’t expect them to declare war, actually. There’s a, you know, a famous scene where he kind of throws a fit when he finds out that they actually did, that did they did do that. And so he doesn’t want to fight France, he doesn’t want to fight Britain. He feels that’s going to weaken Europe when we’ve got this huge threat to the east, the communist threat over there.”

Interesting claims. My understanding is that Britain, France and Poland were allies. How could Hitler have not taken that into account? Also, if Hitler’s main concern is communism, why did he invade Poland, making an alliance with Stalin? Perhaps Hitler should have joined a French, British, Polish alliance to face communism.

I would not be surprised to learn that we have been misled on history. However, these claims don’t seem to present a coherent alternative.

Perhaps a “coherent alternative” is too high a standard in history, which often seems driven by internal dynamics. Biden-Harris seem to be sleepwalking us into WWIII. Few notice. Why should I expect logic, when good sense seems to be in short supply?


67 posted on 09/03/2024 3:11:27 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Scarborough: "This is the Best Biden ever.")
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The Babylon Bee resolves the debate with its article, "9 Signs You Were The Bad Guy In World War II."
74 posted on 09/04/2024 11:59:12 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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