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Food and exercise can treat depression as well as a psychologist, our study found. And it's cheaper.
Medical Xpress / The Conversation / The Lancet ^ | Aug. 3, 2024 | Adrienne O'Neil and Sophie Mahoney

Posted on 08/16/2024 5:59:01 PM PDT by ConservativeMind

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To: Levy78

I used to run 7-8 miles, 6 days a week at a decent pace. At some point, around 4-5 miles, I felt like the running became almost totally effortless. My heart, lungs, muscles, joints all seemed to be in synch. It felt like I could run at that pace forever. Mentally I felt supremely well.


21 posted on 08/16/2024 9:28:43 PM PDT by Az Joe (Live free or die)
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To: Tammy8
Great story. So true. Walking is a miracle drug. I don't even plan my walks; I just start walking hither and yon.

Congratulations on your success!

22 posted on 08/16/2024 11:20:45 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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Blumenthal, J. A., Babyak, M. A., Doraiswamy, P. M., Watkins, L., Hoffman, B. M., Barbour, K. A., ... & Sherwood, A. (2007).

Exercise and pharmacotherapy in the treatment of major depressive disorder. Psychosomatic Medicine, 69(7), 587-596. doi:10.1097/PSY.0b013e318148c19a.

Summary of the Study: Objective: The study aimed to compare the efficacy of exercise, medication (sertraline), and a combination of both in treating major depressive disorder (MDD).

Participants: 202 adults diagnosed with MDD. Methods: Participants were randomized into three groups: one group exercised three times a week for 45 minutes (aerobic exercise), the second group received sertraline (Zoloft), and the third group received both treatments.

Results: After 16 weeks, all three groups showed significant improvements in depression symptoms. The study found that exercise was equally effective as medication, with the combination of both yielding no significantly better results than either treatment alone.

Conclusion: Exercise can be an effective treatment for MDD [major depressive disorder/clinical depression], offering benefits comparable to standard pharmacotherapy.

You can access the full study via academic databases such as PubMed, or through university libraries that have access to the journal Psychosomatic Medicine.

23 posted on 08/17/2024 3:17:48 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Thinking is difficult. That’s why people prefer to just accept what they are told by the media.)
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To: Cold Heart

With all that sunshine you did not have any respiratory infections, no?


24 posted on 08/17/2024 4:48:20 AM PDT by arthurus (covfefe md)
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To: Cold Heart

LOL. I think in the above comment, horse = heroin.


25 posted on 08/17/2024 5:20:06 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Thinking is difficult. That’s why people prefer to just accept what they are told by the media.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Just because a cohort of patients is diagnosed with MDD does not imply much about the severity of the disorder. MDD can be applicable as a diagnosis to high function, fully mobile patients who might well be good candidates for nutrition and exercise therapy.

More severely impacted patients who are not very mobile (often with profound slowing of gait if mobile at all) and are not responsive to behavioral suggestions are prima facie not good candidates.


26 posted on 08/17/2024 11:58:15 AM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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But MDD is not low-grade depression (to use your term). It is clinical depression.

And you said, "For moderate to severe Major Depressive Disorder don't waste your time [with exercise].

Your statement just isn't true.

There may be exceptions of course, but your statement is general.

27 posted on 08/17/2024 12:23:16 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Thinking is difficult. That’s why people prefer to just accept what they are told by the media.)
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To: steve86
I imagine you know this, but this topic isn't a theortical exploration. There may be people reading this thread who are suffering from major depression and are on the verge of giving up.

Please don't discourage them by telling them that exercise isn't worth considering. It may not be the complete solution, but it can't hurt, can it?

I know because I've been there. I know exercise can work in many cases.

28 posted on 08/17/2024 12:46:35 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Thinking is difficult. That’s why people prefer to just accept what they are told by the media.)
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To: RoosterRedux
The phrase "low grade" is from the very first paragraph of the excerpt.

Our world-first trial shows improving diet and doing more physical activity can be as effective as therapy with a psychologist for treating low-grade depression.

That sounds reasonable to me -- try diet and exercise (among other therapies) for patients with low-grade depression.

I had ECT in the family. I served a three-year internship as Assistant Psychologist in a provincial psychiatric facility. My research interest was catatonia.

I have seen mild, moderate, and severe depression. Diet and exercise are not useful therapeutic strategies for the latter.

It is the "exception" where it would be, not the rule

29 posted on 08/17/2024 1:49:51 PM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: steve86

As one of my doctors used to say, “The only expert on your depression is you.”

”I can help you with the tools at my disposal; but in the end, no one else knows what you are going through. No one else—not me, not the medical schools, not the pharmaceutical companies—is an expert on your depression.”

And that includes you and me. We are not experts on other people’s depression. We do not know what it feels like to be in their shoes.

But I can tell you this.

I have dealt with severe depression. Over many years. And I have had friends and family who have dealt with it. And some lost the battle.

But none of them who tried to use exercise (whether intense cardio, hiking in the mountains, or just walking in their neighborhood) would agree with you that it was of no value. Each of them thought that it helped make their struggle just a little bit easier and/or gave them a glimmer of hope.

I personally found that exercise helped me return to a meaningful life. And I have now been using it for many years to keep the wolf from the door.

And, BTW, my doctors ALL agreed as to its efficacy.

So even if you are an expert as to your own depression, you might consider what exercise might mean to other people.

And if you are not someone who has dealt with your own severe depression, you might consider holding your tongue.


30 posted on 08/18/2024 8:57:11 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Thinking is difficult. That’s why people prefer to just accept an ideology.)
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