Posted on 08/13/2024 7:52:03 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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Operation Uranus, Battle of Stalingrad.
Ukraine is getting slaughtered, NATO humiliated and all you have to hold onto are fantasy numbers about Russian losses coming from the Ukrainian army, which has repeatedly told brazen lies about the war.
Nice. Appreciate that clarifier.
In anticipation of a Trump victory, I think Ukraine is setting up a scenario that makes it easy for Trump to end the war if you think about it.
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Desperate Putin orders his ex-BODYGUARD to take command in Kursk as Russia has ‘too many dead to count’ after invasion, Renfrew wrote: “Name one Ukie Offensive that has been successful”
Kherson. You spent months saying the Russians would never surrender the city, only for it to fall.
It remains controlled by Ukraine today despite officially being part of Putin’s Russia.
ransomnote: The Russians left Kherson and set up an administrative hub south of it, the Ukrainian enterred the city unopposed and ever since then, brag of the demonstration of military prowess. Russia didn't want to invest soldiers in Khereson - this is the kind of counter-offensive 'victory' of which the Ukraine is most proud. Whatever Russia doesn't want to hold becomes the 'finest example of military might' on the part of Ukrainians.
Wikipedia is CIA controlled, but even they have scraps of truth here:
Russian occupation of Kherson Oblast"In October 2022, as Ukraine's 2022 Kherson counteroffensive approached the city of Kherson itself, the Russian administration's executive bodies evacuated from Kherson to the left bank of the Dnieper River.[8] They set up a new administrative centre in Henichesk, in the far south of the Kherson region.[9] Throughout early November 2022, Russian forces fully withdrew from all the areas of Kherson and Mykolaiv regions on the right bank of the Dnieper, including the city of Kherson proper.[10][11] Ukrainian forces entered the city of Kherson on 11 November. According to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, the Kherson region remained a "subject of the Russian Federation" despite the withdrawal."
~~~~~ransomnote: US Government State Department content below
We know one thing.
Those guys over there have been lying for 100 yrs.
And those guys over there have been lying for 75 years.
And those guys over there have been lying for 1400 years.
That’s one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard Tucker say. The Ukes openly declare their allegiance to Bandera, give nazi salutes, name units after Oskar Dirlewanger, and use the Wolfsangel on their uniforms. They do the torchlight parades and name streets after prominent nazis. They honor the SS. And the movement even holds parades for SS veterans of the 14th SS division.
Tucker was being obtuse. I think it is because he also wanted to interview Zelinski. But Putin just thought Tucker was kind of dense for saying that. Tucker’s answer that nazism ended in 1945 just sounded stupid.
“I thought it was one of the dumbest things I’d ever heard,” Carlson told Fridman. “I didn’t understand what it meant.”
“I hate that whole conversation because it’s not real,” he continued. “It’s just ad hominem. It’s a way of associating someone with an evil regime that doesn’t exist anymore.”
https://www.newsweek.com/tucker-carlson-throws-putin-under-bus-1874897
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Tucker was wrong. He was just very uneducated on the topic is my guess.
The media is telling the truth THIS TIME, right? Right?
Those numbers have been vetted and even Rusiia had confirmed those numbers to be accurate. I don’t know about Ukraine being slaughtered, I have no info on Ukraine losses. Neither do you for that matter but the Russian losses, they are the most accurate and generally used by both sides (the daily chart I posted). For all I know Ukraine may have lost millions but that’s NOT the stats I have or posted.
So, you’re off topic.
You two have a pretty good exchange going!
I think the next topic for you could be Catholic vs Protestant .!
Mediazona and the BBC could only confirm a total of 61,831 Russian losses in the entire war and the total estimate is only 120,000
https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng
BBC could only confirm a total of 61,831 Russian losses in the entire war
The same BBC that says the US is too slow handing over equipment to Ukraine? The same BBC that suggests the US needs to step up more than it is with military aid?
You really think they’re going to tell the truth about Russian troop losses while at the same time advocating for more US military aid why that would be a conflict of interest now wouldn’t it.
I have no reason to lie, I have no horse in the race with the exception that my tax dollars are going to Ukraine to fight a war that YOU claim Ukraine is losing.
I think it is YOU that needs to prove that the chart that even Russia had already vetted as truthful regarding troop losses, I think it is you that needs to provide the evidence that those numbers are not correct and not by using liberal (Ukraine needs more bombs!!!) BBC
That you would deny that is laughable.
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