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Victor Davis Hanson: How California’s Paradise Become our Purgatory
American Greatness ^ | 20 Jun, 2024 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 06/20/2024 5:05:55 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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1 posted on 06/20/2024 5:05:55 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

And as a reward Newsom is mentioned as a possible presidential candidate by the left.


2 posted on 06/20/2024 5:06:06 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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To: texas booster

VDH ping


3 posted on 06/20/2024 5:06:31 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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You could NOT PAY ME to live in CALIFORNIA!!


4 posted on 06/20/2024 5:15:03 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: MtnClimber

VDH in a lot of words aptly describes how CA fell.

I only have to use one word: DEMOCRATS


5 posted on 06/20/2024 5:31:22 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Ann Archy

Parts of it are great places to visit, but I sure wouldn’t live there.


6 posted on 06/20/2024 5:31:57 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: MtnClimber

I am not a California resident, and never have been. I see them moving into ‘conservative states’ now like locusts. They will swarm and destroy the next area as they flee the destruction they created. They do not learn. They do not fix what they have broken. They move to a new area and destroy again. This will be the end of Western Civilization and its roots are really few major areas. California, New York City, Chicago, and the North East. The pattern appears to be to destroy voter integrity by illegal ballots, then increase the number of government dependents, followed by divisions and promises of ‘tax the rich’ will fix everything. The result is ALWAYS the same. The rich get richer, and the poor dependent of the whims of government.

These activities have moved the entire nation from a Constitutional Republic, to a fascist state as the Government usurps more power and answers to no one.


7 posted on 06/20/2024 5:34:37 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan (Repeatedl)
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Ordinary Americans throughout the USA financed Hollywood and Disney, two huge leftist breeding grounds in that state. Leftist high tech contributed to the rot.


8 posted on 06/20/2024 5:39:52 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: Ann Archy

Your exclamation of dislike for California is very, very sad and may, indeed, be justified. I do know a lot about CA and would not live in the valley or very south of Marin County no matter what. I often yearn to be very close to or in very northern Calif. I do not like what I read of it as far as how it describes its current situation and describes the “rulers”.

Both my parents were born and raised in California until they went to the PI where they were married. My dad was a gold mining engineer

I am an old woman of 84 and after being in two concentration camps developed and run by the Japanese in the Philippine Islands for 3 years, we were set free by the American army. We were scheduled, actually, to be shot and killed by the Japanese guards when we were rescued by American Army men who parachuted in to our camps.

My brother who was born the week or so before we were incarcerated has little memory of this, but I do remember much as I was almost 7 yo when we were rescued.

My family and I ended up in California where my parents came from before they went to the PI. They were both very withdrawn and non-interactive with the local population in Mill Valley and they both had a horrible time with me in terms of my schooling. (I was a very complicated child for all kinds of reasons.) But regardless of the problems of living in California, they loved “their” state and never left until my Dad passed away.

I have been back to CA and I, too, have no interest in staying unless I live in Northern CA.

No place else has been half as interesting as CA in the ultimate analysis. And very few places have seen what has happened to CA. It is a shameful situation as I see it.

Sigh.


9 posted on 06/20/2024 5:45:58 AM PDT by Bodega (Ready to secede now before it's too late.)
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To: Pete Dovgan
What's actually been happening is the more reasonable and “conservative” Californian's are the ones mostly fleeing California.

The libtards who are the primary problem are simply swapping which chairs they prefer to sit in on the deck of the Titanic.

I've gotten to see this first hand. The libtards fleeing San Francisco, thanks in part to remote working from home, have moved into lower cost portions of California, bringing along with them their high wages and ultra liberal nonsense. They drove up costs in my area and are generally repulsive people from my point of view.

Eventually, that pestilence may move out of California to infest the rest of the country, so your scenario likely may occur in the future, but for now, the infestation is staying here.

10 posted on 06/20/2024 5:53:59 AM PDT by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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I get chills every time VDH uses the word “nihilism”. He’s 100% correct. The destroying of all values leaves us with no foundation to stand on.


11 posted on 06/20/2024 5:54:44 AM PDT by Tell It Right (Galatians 6:14 -- May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ...)
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To: MtnClimber

One of my brothers lives in Orange County. I wish he’d move out of there, but his children and grandchildren live in the area, so he won’t.


12 posted on 06/20/2024 5:55:45 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: MtnClimber

“They call it paradise
I don’t know why
You call someplace paradise
Kiss it goodbye”

“The Last Resort” by the Eagles


13 posted on 06/20/2024 5:57:38 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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“And as a reward Newsom is mentioned as a possible presidential candidate by the left.”

And it’s been mentioned that Kamala Harris might run for Cali governor someday.


14 posted on 06/20/2024 6:01:20 AM PDT by cymbeline (we saw men break out of a concentration camp.”)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

I call them DemoN-Rats.


15 posted on 06/20/2024 6:08:00 AM PDT by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: kosciusko51

I also thought of that song.


16 posted on 06/20/2024 6:14:25 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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This is what Democrat/Communist Party politicians do ... and fully half of America loves it — and craves more — as many of those who flee California, like the “progressive” disease of cancer, metasticizing into and killing off healthy areas of our country .... and fully half of American voters want more of this.


17 posted on 06/20/2024 6:19:42 AM PDT by glennaro (2024: The Year of The Reckoning, lest our Republic succumb to the "progressive" disease of the Left)
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To: Ann Archy
You could NOT PAY ME to live in CALIFORNIA!!

Paying people - primarily illegal aliens - to live there is how California got to where it is. But as long as Democrats get more House seats it's all worth it to them.
18 posted on 06/20/2024 6:21:48 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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The were complaining about the wrong people. Now the people they prefer are in power, and made it a bigger mess than anyone could imagine in the ‘70s.


19 posted on 06/20/2024 6:23:25 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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I lived in California for a few years in the early 1980s when I was in the Marine Corps. I was stationed at 29 Palms and then Camp Pendleton so very familiar with the San Diego area as well as the Mojave Desert.

I have very good memories of that time. California still seemed to be booming (this was early in the Reagan era) and a great place to raise a family. The areas I lived in were fairly conservative. However, even then, periodic trips to the Los Angeles area showed me the sleazier side of SoCal. Even at that time, there were thousands of Mexicans crossing the border illegally every day. I have memories of seeing them walking up the railroad tracks from my barracks window at Camp Pendleton, alongside I-5. Nobody even back then seemed interested in stopping them.

I've been back out there for pleasure and business several times since. Most recently October 2022, for a Blue Angels golf tournament in Carlsbad. I spent a day out on Oceanside Beach, which used to be a gem, and I remember seeing hundreds of homeless people camped out, many living out of old cars and vans. The stink was pretty bad if you got too close to them.

20 posted on 06/20/2024 6:31:20 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (6,575,474 Truth | 87,429,044 Twitter)
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