Posted on 10/14/2023 3:35:27 AM PDT by cba123
link to Dr. Christensen presentation above if you want to watch him.
There is some good stuff on youtube from academics and engineers on these things.
HOWEVER, the #1 problem with EVs is a corrupt government pushing them on the public when the infrastructure is not close to supporting them. While, with my limited driving in retirement and the ability to charge at home with power generated by Niagara Falls, an EV is the perfect car for me.
But, I'll be the first to admit an EV would suck for a large segment of the population. Given a decade or so that might change but our despicable government seems the only choice Americans can be allowed to have is to kill or not kill babies.
And Jay Leno can afford pretty much anything... So that’s why it runs. For you to make it run would cost you a small fortune.
That is an absolute LIE, as Tesla has massive back orders and for the last 2 years has made the #1 selling cars in the world.
There are many, many reasons to not like, want or need an EV and most of that is do to our despicable government pushing the technology when it cannot yet be supported.
For some people EVs are a great option but for most, not yet.
Interesting.
Well my current vehicle is a lead-acid vehicle, perhaps I should wait a bit before settling on an upgrade… just to make sure they have a safe alternative first.
Thanks.
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That being said, they are an awful option for most people currently because government pushing them when the support structure is incomplete.
Guess you are willing to ignore how much the American taxpayer paid to bail out the big 3, and GM twice.
Another irony you will learn from the engineers about electric batteries is how they are more prone to thermal runaway in warmer temperatures.
Consider electric school buses in Texas, Florida, or Arizona for example.
While they might take longer to charge in northern climates (they don’t like cold either) they will probably be less likely to enter thermal runaway.
The sad reality is that it only takes one single cell or pouch to fail and its off to the races..... when Tesla used 18650 cells that could be 1 out of 8000.
Another fun fact about school buses -
Here is a recall for childrens clothing from June of this year for not meeting flammability testing standards. I kid you not.....
If this is the standard can you explain to me how/why we are going to put children on electric buses when we know they can explode, break out into rapid and violent fire with very high temperatures, release toxic gases and carcinogenic metallic oxide nanoparticles if one cell among hundreds or thousands has a bad day?
I think the technology works for vehicles (the torque is crazy) just as I love my power tools and phone or this laptop.
The dirty problem is the current battery chemistries which come with a unique set risks and we are not doing enough to teach public safety or other persons handling these to include the public in general about the downsides and how to mitigate them. We are also struggling to recycle these even with the new companies dedicated to it.
You generally get what you pay for, but people cannot abuse these things (off-road is not advised!). Tesla is probably the safest in my estimation and they are continually trying to make them safer.
As you gripe about, the government “war on fossil fuels” is not helping as they have latched onto this technology and are pushing it beyond its capacity in some cases (the bigger they are the more likely they are to fail).
Another blind spot for politicians is that in order for green energy to succeed we need shipping containers with 40 EV packs in them all over America to capture wind/solar. Bad idea and they are burning too frequently because as I stated above.... it only takes on bad cell in the midst of thousands and its done.
The further we move towards a “green grid” or whatever term they are using the more we turn over our electrical security to China because China dominates over 80% of the battery space from mining/refining to production.
The pollution damage from these things if they are in a fire of any kind is horrific.
I do see that EV’s can meet the needs of those who generally don’t drive long distances, but I am holding out for a different battery. With that said, statistically the odds are you will never have a problem with yours as long as it is cared for, not abused, and its not involved in a bad accident.
In some ways, we have gotten a little in front of our skis with this but I am not “anti-EV”, I just want people to know a bit more about these and we need to keep them within a scale and in applications where the risk/benefit analysis makes sense.
On what do you base that assumption?
Tesla is meeting the limited demand for the boutique EV market. That is it. 5% of the market.
Support structure? The average human does not WANT an EV.
Interesting video on thermal runaway. I watch a second video on the subject. It could be an even bigger problem when back street garages repair or recondition battery packs.
Dr. Christensen says the LI industry is basically in the wild wild west stage..
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