Posted on 08/21/2023 2:45:36 AM PDT by Libloather
Oh, so climate change is the new one-fits-all excuse for plain ol’ incompetence and stupidity. Those put in charge of Maui’s safety should be thrown in jail, with the walls of their cells papered with portraits of the burnt corpses they are responsible for.
“it was called global warming until “
I would bet your about 35-40 years old .....
I remember back before globul warming ...
it was the coming ice age .. we were all going to be frozen solid before the turn of the century ..2000
But when it never got cooler .....
Why did cops block the main road out of the fire zone, preventing people from leaving?
Nothing a heard of goats couldn’t have fixed. I have the same feeling about California wildfires... bring in the goats. If a few goats get loose they still eat... and the tinderbox undergrowth and biomass magically gets turned into fertilizer.
Climate is natural and these people are MORONS
“So just to be clear, when you’re talking about global warming, are you saying climate change amplified the cost of human error?” CBS host Margret Brennan asked”
Margret pitches the softball handed to her by corporate office, making the incompetent ( at best) bureaucrats part of the victim class
Treason is firing squad.
Are you surprised that there were people in county & state government that were not qualified to do their jobs?
This is the case in almost any upper/middle management job in government. I am not talking about the government worker doing the actual work at the lower level. I am speaking about those in upper to middle management.
For example, my younger brother worked for the federal bureau of prisons for his entire career at the Big House in Lewisburg, Pa. He decided to retire at age 54(after 32 year) because there was no possible way to advance any further. That was because the Assistant Warden was a Black Woman. She was there because of her sex and race. She was terribly unqualified for her job. She was also my brother’s immediate superior.
So, the only way he would ever advance was if he moved to another prison. The woman Assistant Warden was not going anywhere. She was a figurehead. She would never be promoted to Warden. She was too stupid. So, now my brother works part time for a golf course.
This happens all over state, county & federal government.
I hear other examples of it from two friends who are employed by the State of NH.
I agree, climate change can be blamed, how so? Because ALL the failures came from Dem officials on a Dem Island and they have misplaced their and focused only on climate change instead of real, actual, critical policies.
A couple years ago there was a fire at (I think) Laguna Beach, CA. All the houses on the hillside burned except ONE.
The house did NOT have soffit vents in the overhangs. The house also did not have ridge vents.
They figured that other houses on the hillside burned even though they had taken measures to fire proof their homes too. However, the temperatures in the fire made the air being sucked into the soffit vents so high that the lumber and plywood/osb INSIDE the attic were actually spontaneously combusting. Not from flying embers landing on the roof.
I recall seeing it because the pictures after the fire showed that this house was the only structure left out of about 100 homes on the hill side.
It is similar to pictures of a house in Florida that was left after a hurricane hit directly on that beach. All other structures were completely gone and it remained with superficial damage.
Nope. I was right there with you when we were all going to freeze to death. The only solutions were to ban fossil fuels and surrender our liberties. Hmmmmm.
EC
On a total opposite example is a YouTube series/channel I started watching about these people that just bought a 1000 year old house in Sicily. The walls at the base of this house are 4-5’ thick of STONE and mortar. The roof is clay tiles. Even the upper exterior walls are about two feet thick. The only wood in the house are the beams to hold up the first floor and the roof. It has survived fires, earthquakes, WW2, etc. These people are repairing the inside because no one has lived in it for over ten years. They also bought an olive orchard. The trees on their orchard also look very old. My point is that maybe we need to adapt some of the building codes from places in the world where structures have lasted the millennium.
A golf buddy lived in Maui for about 5 years before coming back. He had purchased a large lot, close to an acre years ago on the big Island. He said the houses built in that neighborhood were basically fireproof, no large trees, housing spread apart so no jumping, stucco type housing, those tile type roofs you see in FL, and most had pools, a pump in the garage and a type of fire hose.
Genocide by guile this time, instead of openly by brute force.
The governor should resign
They are Democrats. It's what they do.
I'm not a weather man, but, won't a Pacific Ocean Tsunami raise the ocean level higher and faster on their ocean front mansions, then the melting of Glaciers, and the Artic Caps?
But, on the bright side; The Tsuname Sirens will be turned on.
I was responding to your original question. The very wealthy have aspirations of owning Maui. They would own it without having to share it with lowly peons.
But most of all, they could buy it for pennies on the dollar.
> Why did cops block the main road out of the fire zone, preventing people from leaving?
I believe that you are probably referring to the main road towards the north.
i have noted the following (note: which probably should be independently checked before repeating):
one major police roadblock appears to have been at 1488 front street. this is the site of the former chart house restaurant, built in 1964, later known as the five palms restaurant, which was apparently closed in 2015 and thereafter unoccupied. it was totally destroyed in the lahaina fire. it is at the intersection of front street and Honoapilani Highway (state route 30), which runs north towards Kaanapali from that point.
according to a recent hawaii real estate interview with the local resident named “Fish,” a policeman who manned the roadblock there claimed to be following orders.
apparently after the fire there remained a line of burned out civilian vehicles on front street leading to the roadblock from the south. the line of burned out civilian vehicles extended south on front street all the way to downtown lahaina (eg, all the way to fleetwood’s restaurant).
what is not clear to me is who gave the order, when the order was rescinded, and if the order was not rescinded, why there is not a police car still at the roadblock (by now it would have been burned along with the line of civilian vehicles on front street).
a possible explanation is that a mid-level or high-level police order was given the roadblock police from a central police office or a police commander somewhere nearby the intersection but not at the physical intersection itself.
I posit that
1. the roadblock command issuing officer was not physically present at the roadblock during the fire.
2. the roadblock command issuing officer’s intention was to keep the road north of lahaina back to the island isthumus (state route 3400 to kanului) clear so that emergency vehicles could use the road unimpeded by vehicles with victims which would have required tow trucks
3. the roadblock command issuing officer was not familiar with the local geography.
4. at some point in time, the roadblock officer withdrew from the scene for reasons not currently established, leaving many, most, or all of the civilian vehicles blocked and subsequently damaged by the fire.
(i would also be interested to learn more information about this.)
hawaii real estate interview with fish #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYN4eYySHJs
* fish stated that he arrived on foot at the roadblock at about 4:00 PM
* fish stated that there were no downed power lines in the area
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