Posted on 08/12/2023 8:13:25 PM PDT by ransomnote
Oh, and good move, quoting a Rothschild/Reuters “fact check” there.
At its core, the entirety of the 2019-2022 plandemic reads like a template for an op.
I have great difficulty grasping how more people can’t see the patently obvious, but I get it.
My my, aren’t you wound up?
Ah, but I did not quote a Reuters article. The words are entirely my own.
Also, please my #25 on this thread. #32 makes the same point.
But you will believe what you want to believe, evidence and logic be darned. So be happy in your belief and have a nice Sunday bwahaha-ing. :)
Mon Dieu, you are out of touch with reality!
(And I followed your link to the Reuters article being served up front and center.)
I think that there were illnesses, and some of them may have been ‘new releases’ from China et. al., but I don’t believe they were ‘Covid’ as defined by the research.
I’ll post a link below providing Covid protocols - you may already have it but maybe others don’t. I had heard that someone was focusing on spike proteins whether from the vax or Covid and I think Ivermectin was among the treatments for that.
https://c19protocols.com/
Many years of planning this - they had large international conferences role playing how to control communications and people in the event of a ‘pandemic’. The text of some of those conference documents is Orwellian.
The main strategic advantage here is Elites are kept safe and are in control of their pandemic. A real pandemic could ‘get away’ from them and actually harm some of THEM.
| In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Dr Michael Yeadon: Why I Don’t Believe There Ever Was a Covid Virus, CatHerd wrote: |
Oh good cow. The Covid virus has been isolated and genome mapped multiple times in multiple countries: https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=covid+virus+genome+isolated No one predicted the flu would ever disappear — yes, it nearly disappeared for a time during the Covid lockdowns, but it is here to stay, same as Covid and other viruses. |
Trolls always insist it's been isolated and everyone has mapped it. And they usually point to Google and Wikipedia, which are 'cleansed' of information contrary to the plandemic 'narrative'. I already explained the strategy behind that. Fauci distributed billions of dollars to researchers throughout his 40 year career and they are taught to behave if they want continued funding upon which they are now dependent.
I didn't say anyone predicted the flu would ever disappear, although Dr. Birx said in a conference, "Well, we don't have flu anymore...."
38 million cases of flu 'disappeared' right when 'Covid' appeared. Well there were 1800 cases of flu that year, 5% of the normal average, so technically, at least 5% of the flu is here to stay.
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Dr Michael Yeadon: Why I Don’t Believe There Ever Was a Covid Virus, CatHerd wrote: That’s easy. I didn’t even have to Google it. The R0 of influenza is lower than the R0 of Covid. The lockdowns, masking, social distancing, etc. were effective in mitigating the spread of flu, but Covid, well, not so much.
China’s draconian lockdowns were more effective at stopping the spread of Covid and they were bragging about it. But then along came Omicron with an R0 higher than the Alpha and Delta strains, and even the outrageous Chinese lockdowns weren’t effective.
But don’t take my word for it. Do your own research. Here you go:
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=why+did+influenza+decline+during+covid
The research shows that even the best masks available (e.g., to nurses in a hospital) did not help protect them from the flu.
There's no point comparing the RO of influenza (no lockdowns, no mask mandates) with the RO of Covid (public locked down under duress, and told they may die if they become sick and won't receive any treatment, mask mandates contributing to respiratory infections of wearers)
China, like the US, had control of the appearance of Covid. Whatever China officials 'say' becomes 'fact' to people like you. But some Chinese who survived said there was no Covid.
I don't take your word for it and I don't check 'narrative' controlled sources for information.
I believe that ‘covid’ was a fabrication, but that SARS-CoV-2 is real & engineered, likely spread via ccp protocols in the event of a (probable) lab leak, and they incorporated lessons learned after 2003 SARS. Everything here in the US followed their existing scenario (ala ‘event 201’).
However, given the fact that the term ‘covid’ was bastardized for the purpose of mass manipulation, we are left with a dilemma:
What is the name for the long-term effects of spike protein toxicity?
At least some of us can accept the reality even in the absence of a label.
I appreciate the link: Ivermectin regimen is my go-to.
However, therein lies another problem: How will I know when I’m infected with an endemic, asymptomatic future (current?) variant of the virus?
The prospect mandates periodic Ivermectin/c19 protocol regimens to detox from probable spike protein infection. I literally have an appointment next week to try to secure an Ivermectin prescription to help remedy my current situation, and hopeful that permanent damage is not currently a prospect.
This is an entirely new public health threat and remains unrecognized by the orthodox community. Thus my ‘Venezuela trip’ explanation for the Ivermectin prescription: Roundworm infection MUST be treated while the parasites are juveniles, mandating the drug be on hand during travel. Unfortunately, in the absence of something else it will permanently be paired next to my PG vape in the medicine cabinet.
The ‘variants’ seem to be part of the fake plandemic.
Dr. Yeadon spoke (different video) of a researcher who located survivors of the 2003 SARS outbreak and tested them with SARS in 2021. The immunity they developed in 2003 held and they were not made ill by re-exposure.
That same researcher tested those 2003 SARS survivors with what was believed to be ‘Covid’ and the patients did not become ill. Supposedly there was only a 25% difference genetically speaking in the viruses over the course of 20 years. I really don’t know what virus is being used in such tests because if identified with the PCR, it wouldn’t be valid. But the point of the test showed that immunity holds, unlike what Fauci told the nation, and that our bodies do not have to experience every specific variation of a virus and develop immunity to each one independently - we can just recognize similar portions of the virus.
Sadly, this likely means we didn’t need annual flu vaccinations just for ‘variants’. I do think Robert Kennedy Jr was correct when he said that the flu isn’t as lethal as we’ve always been told - that the CDC combines pneumonia with flu stats to make flu seem more dangerous so we’d get the annual flu shot. He had been asking people he met over many years if they knew anyone who had died of the flu. In all the times he asked, only one person said ‘yes’. He pointed out that if the flu was a dangerous as they tell us when pushing the annual flu vax, we’d all know someone who died of it. It’s pneumonia that is responsible for most of the deaths attributed to the flu.
Exactly.
However, it troubles me that I experienced the same 'tell' of a symptom with each consequent variant, though each time the severity of all symptoms was exponentially reduced. I maintain my hypothesis that the virus goes latent in certain tissues and that spike protein toxicity is a real threat to public health.
Sending Covid patients into nursing homes infuriated me. Why no relative of one of those poor souls gave Cuomo a real punch in the nose, I don’t know. It was beyond an outrage, it was downright evil.
But why should it bother you, as you think the virus that causes Covid does not exist? You posted before that you thought Covid was caused by “the vaxx” which you claimed was developed before Hillary’s first run for president and intended for use after “her coronation” but Obama beat her out, then Trump in 2016, so they finally used it against Trump in 2020. You claimed they had surreptitiously put the Covid “vaxx” into other vaccines prior to the Covid outbreak. Um, sounds like the Underpants Gnomes to me, but if that’s what you believe, it’s what you believe. You said you got the idea from Bryan Ardis, the chiropractor who also claimed the Covid vaccines — and the water supply! —contained snake venom, and that it was actually the snake venom that was sickening peop!e, not a virus. Watch the water!
If you believe there is no such thing as a Covid virus, and the disease was caused by vaccines (or snake venom in the water), then why be upset about sending “infected patients” to nursing homes? If anyone had received vaccines lately, it was nursing home patients who are routinely vaccinated for flu, pneumonia, etc., so by your lights they were already “infected”. If you’ve changed your mind about the Covid virus being nonexistent, why did you post this piece about Yeardon claiming if does not exist and defending his claim? You must still believe it.
Same with your critique of NYC’s lockdowns (which I happen to mostly agree with). If there is no such thing as a Covid virus, how can you say “if you force people to stay inside with other sick people, then it increases the exposure to the virus and thus the likelihood that they will also get sick”? You can’t have it both ways.
I can forgive the initial response to Covid, as they thought it was spread by droplet (like flu). Masks and social distancing, etc., are rather effective in preventing spread of droplet borne illnesses, but not so much for airborne diseases, and it turned out Covid can be airborne. So, yes, it spread anyway, especially in high-rise buildings where infected people were using elevators, stairways, hallways with a shared air system.
Fauci and our Surgeon General lied to our faces when they said masks did not mitigate transmission (at the time, they believed Covid was spread only via droplet). Fauci later admitted they they had lied because they were afraid the public would buy up all the masks and leave none available for frontline healthcare workers.
A properly-fitted and handled N95 mask can indeed help protect against Covid. Even a properly handled surgical mask can help reduce initial viral load, and thus perhaps limit the severity of your Covid case. But they are not totally failsafe when it comes to airborne viruses (and rather useless if not properly fitted and handled). I suspect they kept up the masking and social distancing and lock downs because the majority of people *wanted* them. Their fear mongering had worked only too well. People want to believe they have some control over their fate, some way to protect themselves, something they can *do* — and *something* the authorities can do and should do.
Some cultures still use magic talismans (an object carried, a red thread tied around the baby’s wrist, etc.) to keep illness at bay. Long ago, people wore garlic or asafetida bags around their necks to ward off diseases (and it might have kinda sorta worked if the awful smell kept others at a distance lol). Back in medieval times, those who could afford them held perfumed hankies to their noses to filter out noxious odors and “airs” believed to cause diseases.
During Covid Time, some believed in masks, gloves, bleach, etc., while others turned to ivermectin or HCQ and/or vitamins. Or all of these. The gloves and bleach probably didn’t do much of anything, as, as far as I know, there has never been a documented case of Covid contracted via surface contact. But we didn’t know that at the time, and wearing gloves and disinfecting surfaces seemed reasonable. Those dopey bandanas worn like an Old West bandit were just silly. Anyway, people doing all these things still caught Covid. Well, duh. It turned out to be airborne. But we had our magic talismans, even though at least some of them were useless.
I can forgive some of the fearmongering and measures taken at the very beginning, when Covid was a whole new animal and all we had to compare it to was SARS1 (far more deadly, but less easily spread). Once it became clear that the vast majority of severe and deadly outcomes were among the elderly and those with comorbidities, it would have behooved us to protect the vulnerable elderly and frail and drop the crazy prolonged lockdowns. The prolonged school closures and forcing little kids to wear masks was insane.
The prolonged lockdowns may well possibly have cost more lives than it saved. Skipped doctor appointments, skipped screenings for cancer and other diseases, long postponed surgeries, BP meds not adjusted as needed, etc., etc., etc. And then there were the other bad health outcomes of prolonged lockdowns (increased suicides, increased drug and alcohol abuse, worse mental health, less exercise and sunshine, etc.)
Yes, Remdesivir is not advised (and not administered) to patients with hepatic dysfunction or impaired kidneys, but there is no evidence it “kills” everyone as you assert. President Trump seems to have survived it just fine:
Yes, it would be interesting to see how many died “of” Covid rather than “with” Covid. Other than those who died of injuries after car crashes, etc., it might be hard to tease out, though. If granny was an obese diabetic and caught Covid and died, was it because she was an obese diabetic or did Covid kill her? Yes. She might well have lasted nine more years had she not caught Covid. She might have survived Covid had she not been obese and diabetic. I think it fair to say it was a combination of all her maladies, but it was the Covid that pushed her over the edge into the grave.
Re: 43 - In case you haven’t noticed, people tend to ignore sources that contradict their positions or beliefs. It’s happens for all sides of the issues.
But let’s be frank. There’s also lots of claims that are made without the benefit of evidence. Pure jackassin’. An example is the claim that Judy Mikovits was raided by the FBI. Mikovits herself does not even claim that.
But so it goes. Narrative shaping by means of false and misleading claims is alive and well on both sides of the COVID-19 issue.
The thing is, I did not read any of the links served up by google. And what Google served you may be different from what it served me. If you want to believe The Expose (a crazy conspiracy site run by a Lincolnshire welder who found a way to grift off Covid, but much beloved by the Q crowd here) that’s your business. Have a nice day!
I made no mention of The Expose (which in my view often distorts and misleads on legit sources, btrw).
You are deranged.
Once again, you shoot yourself in the foot and defy your own logic. You claim masks, social distancing, etc., have zero effect on spread of influenza and Covid, then turn around and claim you can’t compare the R0 of influenza and Covid — because ... masks!!!
Masks are routinely worn by the general public in a number of Asian countries during flu season. Yet Covid spread more readily in these countries than flu ever had.
Research shows that N95 masks do not work better than surgical masks in preventing flu among hospital staff. There is research showing surgical masks do mitigate spread (especially if flu patients are masked). Perhaps you are confused about the research. Or you only believe stuff from The Expose or Natural News or Bryan Ardis.
But all that aside, here you are arguing about the R0 of Covid vs flu, about spread of the Covid virus, while also maintaining there is no such thing as the Covid virus! That this virus does not exist! You make no sense whatsoever.
You do realize the OP is from The Expose? You have been defending it and Yeadon. And you call *me* deranged? This is all just too funny. Wishing you a Blessed Sunday.
I have been defending Yeadon and his perspective.
Please just stop with your slop.
Seems you nothing but goofy insults to offer. Mark of one who has no logical argument or reason on his side.
If you and Yeadon choose to believe there is no Covid virus, then that’s your belief. No amount of reason, logic or evidence will change that belief.
Please just stop. You are embarrassing yourself.
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