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Boris Johnson: "Biden has taken a difficult but brave decision to supply cluster munitions to Ukraine. He is right"
Twitter ^ | July 8 | Boris Johnson

Posted on 07/09/2023 6:47:00 AM PDT by RandFan

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To: Vaduz

Probably be innocent kids out to play after this is all over.


61 posted on 07/09/2023 10:58:43 AM PDT by dforest
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To: kiryandil
--- "...the difficult but brave decision...." I might not go as far as the radioactive enema but....

"...an entirely innocent people." So does Boris-idiot Johnson assert.

But think of the rhetoric of this. Putting aside the massive sums, pre-war, paid to the princelings of Biden, Pelosi, Kerry and friends of Romney from a very poor nation as measured by per capita income, the notion that a nation is comprised of "entirely innocent people" is a laugh and a half.

It is like saying the US is comprised of "entirely innocent people," when in fact the various flavors of FR conservatives who disagree from time to time will NOT disagree that the Bidens and current Democrat leadership are anything but 'innocent." Crooks, we are most sure. Applying this simple truth to other nations, there is no "entirely innocent people" and especially not entirely innocent politicians. Governments are so often THE problem, and it is governments that go to war.

62 posted on 07/09/2023 11:50:38 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: RandFan
Joe Biden has taken a difficult but brave decision to supply cluster munitions to Ukraine.

Joe Biden has taken a step to escalate and provoke WWIII, by committing a War Crime to supply cluster munitions to Ukraine.

Why would not such action be interpreted as an Act of War by the Russians?

It appears to be a decision of desperation by a failing administration.

63 posted on 07/09/2023 12:37:26 PM PDT by olezip
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To: dforest

Sad but true more blood on Biden’s hands talk about war crimes.


64 posted on 07/09/2023 2:01:43 PM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: ansel12

Nothing like what Biden is sending many notions have out lawed the use of them.


65 posted on 07/09/2023 2:02:49 PM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: Vaduz

Russia’s are far worse with a 40% failure rate.

Many nations have decided they won’t use cluster bombs but the United States, Isreal, Ukraine, Russia, and others are not among them.

“The Trump administration cancels a plan to curtail the use of cluster bombs
November 30, 2017
“The policy change, which reverses a 2008 decision by the George W. Bush administration”

“The 2008 policy would have banned the use of all cluster munitions that have an unexploded ordnance rate above 1 percent. Going forward, the U.S. military will be allowed to buy cluster bombs that don’t meet that standard, so long as they have “advanced safety features” such as self-destruct mechanisms that would kick in after they are dropped.”


66 posted on 07/09/2023 2:10:02 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Tai_Chung

Is it because we are running low on other munitions?


Yes, biden actually admitted it
https://twitter.com/SpriterTeam/status/1678070614538452993


67 posted on 07/09/2023 2:10:47 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: ansel12

Yes and Ukraine has been using cluster munitions they inherited from the USSR and the ones they got from France, and now they have run out.


68 posted on 07/09/2023 2:14:52 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright

Right, as I have posted a number of times, Russia has been using cluster bombs since the beginning of its attack and in huge numbers and committing war crimes with them, and even Ukraine has used cluster bombs.


69 posted on 07/09/2023 2:23:36 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

We know how advanced safety features work they are fail safe fail safe fail safe.........................................

It’s not a matter of who cancels a plan to curtail the use of cluster bombs it’s a matter of who issues them when over a 100 countries out lawed them period.

You can pass the buck from the guilty


70 posted on 07/09/2023 2:35:19 PM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: Vaduz

Go join one of the international peace groups and protest against the great satans America and Isreal and President Trump and Biden.

Were you protesting against Russia since the beginning of their invasion?

Russia’s use of cluster munitions causing ‘intense’ harm in Ukraine
May 11, 2022
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/12/ukraine-cluster-munitions-human-rights-watch/

Russia Is Accused of Using Cluster Rockets in Ukraine.
March 11, 2022
https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-is-accused-of-using-cluster-rockets-in-ukraine-why-those-weapons-are-so-destructive-11646994602

Rights groups and observers say Russia is using cluster bombs in its invasion of Ukraine
March 1, 2022
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-afghanistan-israel-syria-europe-4ac7b012f2b63567ffde368f65283921

Russia accused of using ‘cluster bombs’ in Ukraine as civilian casualties surge
March 4, 2022
https://nypost.com/2022/03/04/russia-accused-of-using-cluster-bombs-in-ukraine-as-civilian-casualties-surge/

How Bellingcat Investigators Verified the Brutal Use of Cluster Munitions in Ukraine
March 18, 2022
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-investigators-use-online-evidence-to-expose-possible-war-crimes/

Bogged-Down Russian Troops Resort to Deadly Cluster Munitions
MARCH 16, 2022
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/03/16/russia-military-ukraine-cluster-munitions-civilian-casualties/

NATO Accuses Russia of Using Cluster Bombs in Ukraine
March 4, 2022
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/04/world/europe/nato-ukraine-russia-cluster-bombs.html

Human rights groups and observers say Russia is using cluster bombs in its invasion of Ukraine
MARCH 1, 2022
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-03-01/what-danger-do-cluster-bombs-pose


71 posted on 07/09/2023 2:43:09 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

Biden has taken a chicken shit way out of the chaos he’s caused a 500 day war he’s drained our arm supply it’s a no win stand off billions wasted no plans.
The chump is walking us into Xi’s arms he knows it’s time to strike before the elections.

He is right MY ASS


72 posted on 07/09/2023 2:49:33 PM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: Vaduz

I never said he was right or wrong, I’ve been trying to keep people honest with truth over silly rants misconceptions, and lies.


73 posted on 07/09/2023 2:51:56 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: free_life

This sounds like desperation—Leopard tanks, F-16, weapons are not going to change things. Russia has cluster bombs too—and control of the air to drop them on Kiev. Just rackets up the horror until it goes to Poison Gas, Dirty Bombs, Nukes, and Germ warfare. We are on the verge of WW III—Americans, Brits, Pols and Romanians will be fighting shoulder to shoulder against Russians, Chinese, North Koreans, Iranians, Serbians, Cubans, Brazilians, Syrians, South Africans, etc... Will Germans fight? French? Italians? Spaniards? or sit on the fence? Good news—lots of jobs coming to support the twelve million man American Army! A few nukes will solve our inner city homeless problems.


74 posted on 07/09/2023 3:37:21 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: ansel12

I’ve been trying to keep people honest

That’s funny


75 posted on 07/10/2023 6:56:41 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: Vaduz

Some facts and accurate information are most useful to many people, but you only giggle, well, ok then.


76 posted on 07/10/2023 7:14:10 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

Facts

Something many like to make up often to fit an agenda and it’s not just the media.


77 posted on 07/10/2023 7:46:35 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: RandFan
"But they have been used by Putin for over a year in his programme of indiscriminate slaughter of an entirely innocent people.,,,,"

If it wasn't for lying, the wanker wouldn't be able to talk at all.

78 posted on 07/11/2023 1:12:23 AM PDT by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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To: ganeemead

Jimmy Dore’s Take on sending cluster bombs to Ukraine...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DvKKTHl_D0


79 posted on 07/11/2023 4:12:24 PM PDT by Texan4Life
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To: ganeemead

Here’s what Democracy Now thought of the US sending cluster bombs to be used by Ukraine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c65-1E1WBoU


80 posted on 07/12/2023 10:27:22 PM PDT by Texan4Life
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