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James Cameron breaks silence on deadly Titanic Five sub disaster and says it reminds him of Titanic sinking because the 'captain was repeatedly warned' but 'steamed full-speed ahead'
Daily Mail ^ | 6.22.2023 | Emma James

Posted on 06/22/2023 3:42:32 PM PDT by libh8er

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41 posted on 06/22/2023 5:37:40 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
James Cameron never went to film school. He was earning his livelihood as a truck driver, but the true calling of his heart was to make movies. On weekends Cameron went to the nearby university and found papers written by film students, articles on cinematography, books on things like cameras and acoustics. Anything that might possibly pertain to filmmaking. He made photocopies of everything and took those home and put them in binders and studied the hell out of them. He estimated later that he spent $120 on copying, but was getting a full blown education on filmmaking for it. A few years later Cameron decided he knew enough and set out to make his first film. I forget which one it was but sometime soon after he was working on Piranha 2 when he caught the flu. During his fevered delirium he had a vision of a metal endoskeleton with glowing red eyes. He wrote it down. It became the inspiration for The Terminator. He directed that and that led to Aliens and that pretty much solidified his career as a filmmaker.

The guy knows more about hard work and sacrificing for your dream than probably most people.

42 posted on 06/22/2023 5:47:55 PM PDT by Ciaphas Cain (#notmypedophile)
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To: libh8er

The Sub, had gone down 25 times!! the useful life of a sub like this going that deep is 2 maybe 3 dives and it is scrapped. The Hull can not handle the compression decompression cycles, and every cycle stresses the hull even more, until???

There was engineer that worked there and when he brought this they Fired Him.


43 posted on 06/22/2023 6:06:24 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: GingisK

Interesting and never knew that. I did know that large amounts of coal can spontaneously combust as utilities constantly turn their coal piles.


44 posted on 06/22/2023 6:11:50 PM PDT by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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This is the third or fourth post with the term dieseling. I’ve googled it but can’t find a tie to implosion. Please explain or share a link. Thank you.


45 posted on 06/22/2023 6:13:13 PM PDT by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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46 posted on 06/22/2023 6:31:31 PM PDT by simpson96
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The Sub, had gone down 25 times!! the useful life of a sub like this going that deep is 2 maybe 3 dives and it is scrapped.

That's a lot of stress fatigue! Aiplanes undergo rigorous examination every so often as laid out in FAA guidelines. I don't know if the sub was subject to any such. I read today that although the passengers had signed waivers the company itself can still be sued for criminal negligence.

47 posted on 06/22/2023 6:42:23 PM PDT by libh8er
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I didn’t know that. He’s done some great stuff. Unfortunately, like Ridley Scott (another favorite) he fell a bit too much in love with CGI.


48 posted on 06/22/2023 6:59:58 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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Captain Smith was the most senior officer in the White Star Line and the first voyage of the R.M.S. Titanic was to have been his last before retired. He was distracted and inattentive. The ship narrowly avoided an accidental collision when leaving port.


49 posted on 06/22/2023 7:28:04 PM PDT by PBRCat
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Cameron isn't the genius he appears to be.

He was sued by Harlan Ellison, who is a major league PIA in his on right, for plagiarism. Ellison claims Cameron lifted the plot for Terminator from an Ellison screenplay on ā€œThe Outer Limitsā€.

They settled and Ellison got credit on at least the home release of the Terminator. The rest of the settlement seems to be behind a NDA. Cameron denies everything but he did settle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldier_(The_Outer_Limits)

50 posted on 06/22/2023 9:07:13 PM PDT by Polynikes (Nicht geimpft Mensch 2nd Klasse)
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I wonder if the sub hit an iceberg?..... : )


51 posted on 06/22/2023 10:57:22 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: Mean Daddy
This is the third or fourth post with the term dieseling. I’ve googled it but can’t find a tie to implosion. Please explain or share a link. Thank you.

I can't find a link either, it's weird.

When a sub implodes at crush depth it's incredible y violent. The imploding hull compresses the internal atmosphere in milliseconds to a small fraction of its previous volume, creating enough heat to explosively ignite anything flammable even if there is no ignition source. Analogous to how fuel is burned in a diesel engine, by virtue of heating from the high compression ratio.

52 posted on 06/22/2023 11:02:04 PM PDT by JustaTech (My mind is the weapon. Everything else is tools.)
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Think of it this way - a diesel engine doesn’t have spark plugs to cause ignition of the combustible mixture. It uses glow plugs and Very High compression. That alone is sufficient to cause combustion.


53 posted on 06/22/2023 11:19:05 PM PDT by HandyDandy (My advice? Curb your enthusiasm.)
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To: GingisK

Sailor: There is a fire down below!
Captain: Not to worry we will have it out by the time we get to New York.


54 posted on 06/22/2023 11:21:59 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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Harlan Ellison sued anybody and everybody. I don't blame Cameron or anyone else for settling with Ellison, just to make him go away.

I generally like Ellison's work but the man was a bit of a nutcase. He was the grumpy old man of science fiction. The slightest resemblance to any of his work meant almost automatic litigation from him.

Want to know how twisted Ellison was? Go find the original draft of "The City on the Edge of Forever", it's WELL worth reading.

55 posted on 06/23/2023 1:47:04 AM PDT by Ciaphas Cain (#notmypedophile)
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Its true, they did stop that fire.


56 posted on 06/23/2023 5:05:31 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: JustaTech

Interesting and thank you. Appreciate it.


57 posted on 06/23/2023 5:42:59 AM PDT by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: libh8er
Depending on which version of the story one believes, Captain Smith was speeding through the North Atlantic because

or

A) Because his bosses at White Star lines were leaning on him to break the Atlantic crossing speed record, which had recently been set by a competitor.

B) He had been quietly informed that there was fire in the coal bin.

Reason B might have been kinda understandable if true. Reason A wouldn't have been a good reason but it would have been a "reason-reason" nonetheless.

Stockton Rush was a psychotic narcissist. Personal pride and ambition are really suck-ass reasons to lead other people to suicide, especially for a Princeton man.

One has read that the young Pakistani man really really really didn't want to go on the Titanic cruise, but dad was obsessed with the matter and was insistent. When dad says you go, one goes, if one is a good son...

58 posted on 06/23/2023 5:58:18 AM PDT by OKSooner ("Oh, the mad fools!")
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his bosses at White Star lines were leaning on him to break the Atlantic crossing speed record, which had recently been set by a competitor.

It would have been his last trip, he should have done what a good Captain would do and be prudent. The graveyards of full of people who wee not prudent when they should have been, but the Captain needs to protect his passengers.

59 posted on 06/23/2023 6:02:59 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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That’s why I said Ellison is a major league PIA in his own right.

Doesn’t change the fact Cameron settled, for what ever reason. Puts his “I had a dream” claim in a different light.


60 posted on 06/23/2023 6:04:03 AM PDT by Polynikes (Nicht geimpft Mensch 2nd Klasse)
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