Posted on 03/03/2023 3:20:57 PM PST by CFW
I don’t opine. I read medical studies at Nature, Mayo, PubMed and cite them. I leave make believe opining to Kirsch and other frauds.
“Would you object to calling the Frankenstein’s Monster Not-A-Vax an mRNA gene therapy injection? If not, why not?”
mRNA plays no role in gene therapy. The two types of RNA that do play a role in gene therapy are dsRNA and RNAi. Follow the link:
https://www.genomicseducation.hee.nhs.uk/blog/rna-based-therapies-two-types-explained/
“Presuming you won’t insult our intelligence by calling it a vaccine, what would you yourself call it?”
A vaccine is something that trains the immune system to recognize an antigen and build an antibody to fight it. The mRNA shots do exactly that. The medical world calls them vaccines, conspiracy fans will call them whatever they feel like. Emotion rules supreme in conspiracy world.
That there is one of my personal favorites. Cracks me up every time I see it.
Generally, the folks repeating that particular chestnut also get extra shouty if even mild disagreement is raised. Reminds me of when I would visit elderly relatives at the assisted living facility. Lunch could be insane...a room full of folks with senile agitation, and all of them hard of hearing. Good times, good times.
I insisted upon the Johnson & Johnson jab, specifically to avoid exposure to mRNA. Not that I wanted ANY jab, but I’m married.
Did I dodge the bullet with the J&J poke?
“forget about kirsch ... look at the source material, the research article published in the Journal of Clinical & Experimental Immunology”
That “journal” is an imitation of an actual medical journal published by Oxford University Press.
It even gives itself a name virtually identical to the Oxford U. Press publication “Clinical & Experimental Immunology”.
But it’s not real, it’s a fake. The “Journal of Clinical & Experimental Immunology” is put out by some outfit called Opast Publishing Group.
https://predatory-publishing.com/checking-out-opast-publishing-group/
When you follow the ISSN number it takes you here where there is no article nor any journal:
https://portal.issn.org/resource/ISSN/2475-6296
The Oxford University site of the real “Clinical & Experimental Immunology” is here:
The authors of that “study” will know it’s not the real Oxord journal having virtually the same name. You didn’t and they are counting on that.
“This does not mean that there are not problems with COVID-19 vaccinations.”
Real problems will get ignored because after years of non-stop kook koolaid people will think it’s just more of the same. I can see the Daily Expose nuts saying “No! We aren’t making this one up this time! Really! This time it’s real!”
The definition of “vaccine” mysteriously changed-did you not get the memo, Mr. No Opinion?
Re: 25 - I just checked the address for the Opast Publishing Group:
10807 W 145th TER, Overland Park, KS 66221
It’s a house (beautiful home ~ 3500 s.f.) in a large housing development.
BTW, that’s a great website on predatory publishing. Provides lots of good background.
“The definition of “vaccine” mysteriously changed-did you not get the memo, Mr. No Opinion?”
You think it changed because you never knew anything about vaccines prior to Covid and you’re no better informed now. Apparently the memo you read wasn’t worth much.
Vaccines did exactly one thing when Edward Jenner used cowpox to innoculate against smallpox in the 1700s. They train the immune system to be ready to combat a particular disease. They still do that same one thing now.
“It’s a house (beautiful home ~ 3500 s.f.) in a large housing development.”
Grifting must pay well. Counterfeit “journals” are pay to play and Opast has plenty of them. All with names similar to actual science publications.
https://www.opastpublishers.com/international-publisher/open-access-journals.html
Before the internet they would have had to actually print this junk so there wasn’t much of a market for fake journals. Now it’s just inexpensive software storing a pdf file. It costs the grifter virtually nothing.
Great detective work. This sort of smart work is what once made FR great. As in “Buckhead” great. Well done.
The paper cited is not a, “peer reviewed,” scientific research paper as it is labled. Please read the original document. Who ever posted the has Bern scammed by Kirsch.
In that case everyone who ever caught Covid is in big trouble. But there’s no evidence that the spike protein itself is “toxic”. The closest thing to that is VITT, a very rare occurrence seen with Astra-Zeneca and J&J vaccines but not Moderna or Pfizer.
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Then again, maybe the Sun doesn’t have spots. But it does.
The mRNA technology was first developed to treat cancer but the body recognized the cancer fighting agents and produced antibodies to fight the treatment itself. Then the bright idea was to use the technology to develop vaccines but the research was rushed and did not follow established scientific procedures. The result was a flawed vaccine that contained contaminants and weakened the body’s own immune system.
mRNA uses pseudouridine to encode the spike protein and lipid nanoparticles (LNP) to deliver it. The spike is a toxic glycoprotein that was most likely engineered in a Chinese lab.
The experimental Covid-19 vaccine induces the body to produce billions of spikes that remain for at least 60 days and circulate throughout the body including past the blood-brain barrier. The spike causes clots in the blood, malformed antibodies and inflammation in vital organs (brain, heart, liver, kidneys and intestines).
Another unique property in the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 is a polybasic furin-cleavage site located at the S1/S2 junction. Such a site can be recognized and cleaved by the furin protease. The bioengineering of the S1/S2 junction is obvious and cannot be found in nature. This is what makes the virus incredibly transmissible in humans. The spike is what makes the SARS-CoV-2 lethal to humans (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome).
1. Mercola, McCullough, et al.
In addition, I recovered from Covid pneumonia in March 2022. But not before I was in the fight of my life. I had beat the infection after seven days but developed a fever that lasted 10 days (Feb. 18 - 28). I was experiencing a cytokine storm where my body was having difficulty eliminating the toxic spike.
My vitals began to drop and eventually I had to be admitted to the hospital with an O2 of 88%. The experience was nothing like I had experienced with both H1N1 (Nov. 2009) and H3N2 (Aug. 2013). I was given oxygen and Dexamethasone, but I refused Remdesivir. It took me until July 2022 to recover. I suffered extreme fatigue, brain fog, speech problems, memory loss, digestive issues, twitching in my right index finger and my hair began to fall out.
I am convinced via keen observation and thorough research that the SARS-Cov-2 virus was cooked up in that China lab (WIV1) and that the spike glycoprotein is indeed toxic. I was wondering, are you working for China?
” I was wondering, are you working for China?”
Dimwits certainly love rumor and innuendo.
“The spike is a toxic glycoprotein “
That’s not true but ignorant people are prone to repeat anything that they hear.
“The mRNA technology was first developed to treat cancer “
mRNA is basic biology that cells employ to create proteins. It’s as old as cells are. So maybe a billion years old, who knows when cells first appeared. Viruses use mRNA to get cells to make new copies of the virus. It’s been around a long time. The only thing new is us figuring out how to use a process that cells and viruses have managed to use since forever.
“The mRNA technology was first developed to treat cancer “
Obviously, you failed to read my rebuttal. The mRNA approach to treating cancer was a failure because of antibody production that fought against the treatment; hence the idea to use it as a “vaccine.” I understand the role of mRNA and mtRNA, so spare me the lecture. BTW, where did the first self-replicating RNA molecule come from?
Your opinion is shared by elitists and globalists who publish garbage and censor serious research. The same group of pointy headed intellectuals who said that hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin were ineffective against Covid-19. The WEF, who plan the Great Reset in 2030 with, “eat ze bugs, you will have nothing and like it.” It was never about saving lives. It was all about control by the powers-that-be, the sociopaths and psychopaths in charge who rise to the top and leave a path of destruction in their wake.
Since the emergence of the China Virus I have studied a significant amount of peer-reviewed articles regarding epidemiology, immunology, virology and serology. My conclusions are based on scientific research and a review of the observational data, including the rise of excess deaths since 2021 when the vaccine rollout began.
Your claim that the spike is not toxic is shared by the clueless fact-checkers and lying liberals who shouted “trust the science” as they proceeded to get it wrong on the origin, lockdowns, mandates, denial of proper therapeutics, war against the unvaccinated and subsequent medical tyranny.
“but ignorant people are prone to repeat anything that they hear.”
He can talk brilliantly upon any subject, provided that he knows nothing about it.
The spike protein is the result of bioengineering.
The spike is toxic to humans because it attacks human ACE2 receptors.
The “vaccine” causes the body to produce billions of spikes.
The spikes travel throughout the body causing an inflammatory response.
The mRNA approach to vaccines is a failure of epic proportions.
https://vachristian.org/germans-unleash-spike-protein-bombshell/
You cannot find that for which you do not look.
“I was wondering, are you working for China?”
Dimwits certainly love rumor and innuendo.
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We have confirmation, 老天有眼.
You work for China (like FJB and Fauci). I claim my two fifty.
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go. ibid
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