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EXCLUSIVE: Candace Owens, 32, says Tennessee hospital threatened to call CHILD SERVICES and stopped her from leaving until her newborn underwent 'unnecessary' blood test - as she accuses 'hospital mafia' of inflating her insurance bill
UK Daily Mail ^ | 09/10/2022 | Alex Hammer

Posted on 09/10/2022 3:26:21 PM PDT by DFG

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To: Vermont Lt

Thanks for the lucid reply to my post. However, I don’t think you addressed the excerpt from the article or the article itself.

I’m no celebrity, but I have seen plenty of evidence that the medical community thinks they are in charge, not the patient.

They are experts. The best experts disagree with one another on many things. Mediocre experts just go with the “consensus,” or proceed from “policy.” More importantly, it’s the patient who has to live or die with the consequences.

One excuse for socialism is that the experts know best and should be in charge. Hint. They never will be in charge. The state will be in charge. Hitler’s medical system had little trouble following orders.

Having read the excerpt and the article itself, I agree much more than I disagree with her statements. Perhaps she is a celebrity. Novak Djokovic is certainly a celebrity. When they stand up for their freedom, they stand up for mine as well.


181 posted on 09/11/2022 10:25:56 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Neither a Democracy nor a Republic. "I did that," Joe Biden.)
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To: M. Thatcher
You are disgusting.

I didn't realize we had a crack baby fan club here.

182 posted on 09/11/2022 10:36:37 AM PDT by humblegunner (Ain't drownin', Just wavin'...)
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To: humblegunner

“Would you let her order you around where you work?”

If I worked for her, yes.


183 posted on 09/11/2022 11:30:29 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Neither a Democracy nor a Republic. "I did that," Joe Biden.)
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To: Vermont Lt
Then have your children born in a barn.

Or they could consult with Medieval Barber Theodoric of York.

Nothing beats a good bloodletting, some leaches.

“Why, just fifty years ago, they thought a disease like your daughter's was caused by demonic possession or witchcraft. But nowadays we know that Isabelle is suffering from an imbalance of bodily humors, perhaps caused by a toad or a small dwarf living in her stomach.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edIi6hYpUoQ

184 posted on 09/11/2022 1:44:04 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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To: kaila

Stop making sense. It is no longer allowed here. :)


185 posted on 09/11/2022 1:45:34 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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To: Mom MD
If she had a positive group b strep culture prior to delivery (the most common indication for antibiotics during labor) and refused antibiotics she carelessly and callously endangered her infants life to prove whatever she was trying to prove. Without antibiotics those infants need be be monitored closely for 48 hours. With strep sepsis they crash and die within hours. I get it that people here hate doctors but she was wrong here and bet her child’s life on it.

She also proudly boasts that none of her children have ever been vaccinated for anything because “they are healthy”. IOW – she’s an idiot.

186 posted on 09/11/2022 1:54:13 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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To: pierrem15
I was not groggy or in any way affected as far as I could tell when I left.

My husband had a colonoscopy under general anesthesia in the early 2,000’s. I drove him to the surgical center early that morning, I waited in the waiting room and then I drove him home by 11AM.

Once we got home, he insisted he was OK to go to work for the rest of the day. I however had to go back to my job and explained to him, and as we had discussed earlier, that I couldn’t drive him to work and pick him up, being that our workplaces were about an hour away from our home but in opposite directions.

He insisted however that he was OK to drive himself to work. I reminded him of his discharge papers that said he should not drive (or operate heavy machinery) for the next 24 hours.

He also complained about being hungry and wanting breakfast.

I said, “Sure, make breakfast for yourself, I’ll wait…”

Thinking he was not at all groggy or at all impaired, he attempted to make scrambled eggs and bacon and toast for himself.

He ended up with some eggshells in the scrambled eggs, missed putting the rest of the eggshells in the trash can with several ending up on the floor, forgot to turn the burner on for the bacon and couldn’t understand why the bacon wasn’t cooking, put the bread in the toaster and forgot to push down the lever. He did manage to make some scrambled eggs, but then put the empty frying pan back on the burner without turning the burner off.

I saw him put the frying pan back on the still lit burner and waited until the smoke alarm went off before turning off the burner and removing the frying pan, opening windows and waving a magazine at the smoke alarm until it stopped.

Yet he still insisted he wasn’t at all impaired and asked me to hand him his car keys. I handed him my car keys, not his, then he went to the closet to get his coat and then asked me again where his car keys were.

I then pointed out he was holding them in his left hand and pointed out they were not his keys.

I finally convinced him that he was in no condition to drive, then called my boss to tell him I wouldn’t be coming into the office for the rest of the day because my husband was a giant man baby and needed adult supervision. He laughed.

I finished making his breakfast, got him to put on his jammies and got him to go to bed after eating.

He slept until the next morning.

187 posted on 09/11/2022 2:39:46 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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To: Fireone

“The doctors work for you, they don’t own you!”

That is as it should be. Let’s face it. We do have socialized medicine in America. If you go into a Doctor’s office you may receive a hard sell and whatever the system promotes. If you go into a hospital, they think they decide when you should be ALLOWED to leave.


188 posted on 09/11/2022 6:06:05 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Neither a Democracy nor a Republic. "I did that," Joe Biden.)
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To: ifinnegan

“If she’d said the magic word racist they’d probably have accommodated her on anything she wanted.”

Now that’s a tough one. If she were liberal, she could call the press and get a sympathetic treatment and the hospital would soon come around. As a conservative Black woman, the press would only attack her. Her best bet is a lawsuit for a tens, if not a hundred, million dollars. That would likely do the trick.

In case of medical emergency, your first call should be to the hospital. Follow-up as soon as possible with a call to your lawyer.


189 posted on 09/11/2022 6:12:23 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Neither a Democracy nor a Republic. "I did that," Joe Biden.)
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To: Mom MD

I have no problem with women being tested during the 3rd trimester.

I also remember you telling me and everyone else that Ivermectin and hydroxychloriquine didn’t work in treating Covid-19. Turns out you were clearly wrong.

You also claimed the Covid-19 vaccines were safe and effective. Turns out those were lies from Big Pharma and the government.

Do you still hold your previous positions on those two items?


190 posted on 09/11/2022 7:41:19 PM PDT by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: WASCWatch

I never said the vaccine was safe and effective. not once. I said it was a risk benefit calculation for every individual and still do. For the native disease and delta variant I believe it saved lives in the high risk population. I was not and am not a proponent for under 30 or low risk individuals or for the current variant.

Hcq did not work. used it extensively not impressed and I note even the most rabid ivermectin fans no longer mention it. Not impressed with ivermectin - the data just isn’t there and I did t give it to my own family when they got covid. Even if it has mild activity we have far better treatments. What does work and I have been a proponent of are steroids and monoclonal antibodies. Data is less good on paxlovid and I don’t recommend it for low risk individuals and mild disease - and with omicron the overwhelming majority is mild. It may have a place in high risk individuals. But it is amazing how I hear all the things You supposedly said and never did in these threads.


191 posted on 09/11/2022 7:54:20 PM PDT by Mom MD ( )
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To: Mom MD
You might want to read RFK Jr's The Real Anthony Fauci. The list of citations from highly qualified scientists, researchers, etc. is extremely impressive. The book was the #1 best seller for many weeks, and no one has even attempted to refute it because they can't. The disparagement of hydroxychloriquine and Ivermectin was because they are both cheap and effective; not outrageously expensive which only resulted in multiple billions in profits for two Big Pharma companies. The only countries in Africa that had many deaths from Covid-19 were Egypt and South Africa where hydroxychloriquine and Ivermectin cocktails were not approved. In the poorest areas of Africa, and in India, those cocktails of drugs were widely approved and used to great effect. I have a friend who is a missionary in Kenya. She told me the the hydroxychloriquine or Ivermectin cocktails of drugs were OTC for $1.50-2.50; and they worked extremely well.
192 posted on 09/12/2022 9:12:17 AM PDT by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: military cop

May I?

TTIWWP.

Twip for short.

8^)

5.56mm


193 posted on 09/12/2022 9:18:36 AM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho got to go.)
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To: humblegunner

Thankfully, your disgusting post was zapped, as it deserved.


194 posted on 09/12/2022 10:32:28 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: M. Thatcher

Probably because you cried about it.
Boo Hoo.


195 posted on 09/12/2022 10:50:54 AM PDT by humblegunner (Ain't drownin', Just wavin'...)
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To: Mom MD

There is also this.

https://www.wnd.com/2022/08/new-ivermectin-study-shows-92-lower-chance-covid-death/


196 posted on 09/12/2022 3:45:23 PM PDT by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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