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Does Anyone Want an Electric Car?
Road and Track ^ | 7 Jan 2022 | JOHN PEARLEY HUFFMAN

Posted on 01/07/2022 6:38:14 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT

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To: dragnet2

My round trip to town is 150 miles and I get 2-3 weeks worth of goods at a time. So a trailer with surge brakes is in order. I have a couple cartop carriers and I can repurpose one of those. :)


121 posted on 01/08/2022 11:59:44 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: hecticskeptic
I'm in Alabama. Does that make me a 3,069 heating degree day and 1,634 cooling degree day? Whatever that is. LOL

Perhaps equally important are the average peak solar hours per month. I used http://tsi.tyconsystems.com/html/nrel_lookup.htm when I was studying up before buying my solar system. I count this as one of the estimates I did that was pretty accurate.

122 posted on 01/08/2022 1:05:30 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right
That's an interesting scenario. Having your own solar array certainly changes the cost model for an electric vehicle if your usage of it allows you to charge it solely at your house.

At the same time if you only drive your truck 200 miles a week you should be able to run a gas truck for many years unless you have the rust problem we have here in New England. I don't know the expected lifetime of the new electric trucks, but if they last for 10 years the truck alone costs almost $96 per week before any energy or maintenance. If you can keep a vehicle running for 20 years, which in your case is 200,000 miles then your per week cost is about $50.00 less. That increased life would pay for your gas bill at $3.00 per gallon and 200 miles per week at 15 mpg.

What you need is an electric truck that will last for 20 years, so you can get 200K or more miles out of it.

But realistically rust is your biggest enemy if you want a long useful life for a truck.

123 posted on 01/08/2022 1:54:12 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing
Excellent point. Rust isn't a thing here in Alabama.

In truth, the whole reason I'm thinking of an EV and I went solar is from inflation risk. Basically, I made nice money on mine and my wife's investments and we're retiring early in our 50's (she's already retired, I will in maybe 5 years). But I have a real problem with the fact that my power bill and natural gas bill didn't go way down after my kids grew up and moved out like I thought it would. That woke me up to inflation risk being a lot higher than a simple 3% or so, at least for energy stuff.

I thought about fighting it with investing. Basically my average returns outdo even energy inflation (well except for this year natural gas practically doubling in a year). But I've built up plenty of wealth -- at least enough to retire comfortably in my 50's. So I got a HELOC to pay for most of the solar system as my way of trying to control future energy costs -- at least the portion of energy I make on my own. At the end of the day, that's really what solar and possibly an EV are to me. A hedge against Dims monkeying with my decades of retirement budget.

124 posted on 01/08/2022 2:12:04 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

Yes it does! Those are not high demands by the way which in a sense is good when you want to be using the electrical generated for charging an EV car.


125 posted on 01/08/2022 2:25:11 PM PST by hecticskeptic
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To: norwaypinesavage

—” A gas powered generator would need as much engine size and fuel tank size as an automobile has now ...”

If what you say were true, there would be no advantage to a hybrid vehicle and all the added complexity.

But somehow it works and the TCO is noticeably less.


126 posted on 01/08/2022 3:13:05 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: Fresh Wind

—”Actually, it’s 30 states.”

That is how they are killing their pet project.

Depending on where you live/ the cost of an electric vehicle vs ICE can be very small. .. So tax the crap out of it.

How Much Do Electric Vehicles Cost to ‘Fill Up’ Compared With Buying Gasoline?
Where you live is the biggest factor, and EV road trips could lead to sticker shock

https://archive.vn/AHI2d


127 posted on 01/08/2022 3:28:13 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

A hybrid vehicle doesn’t tow a trailer and the motor is also the generator, so it doesn’t add additional weight. The reason for the better fuel economy is that the electric charge isn’t added to the fuel economy numbers, even though significant coal and natural gas is burned to make the electricity.


128 posted on 01/08/2022 3:46:22 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Capitalism is what happens when you leave people alone.)
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To: norwaypinesavage

“The reason for the better fuel economy is that the electric charge isn’t added to the fuel economy numbers, even though significant coal and natural gas is burned to make the electricity.”

Pls, check the definitions of the terms you use.

A hybrid uses an ICE to charge the batteries.
There are PLUG-IN HYBRIDS that can gain a few additional miles by stopping off the batteries.

Pls explain, make no sense?

” The reason for the better fuel economy is that the electric charge isn’t added to the fuel economy numbers, even though significant coal and natural gas is burned to make the electricity.”


129 posted on 01/08/2022 3:55:00 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

You got it. I’m talking about plug in hybrids.


130 posted on 01/08/2022 4:29:25 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Capitalism is what happens when you leave people alone.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

You got it. I’m talking about plug in hybrids.


131 posted on 01/08/2022 4:30:13 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Capitalism is what happens when you leave people alone.)
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To: Deaf Smith

When I can no longer get fuel for the car. I will convert it to LP - Cost today is between 2000-4000 dollars. Better solution then 50000-90000 for a poor EV.


132 posted on 01/08/2022 4:59:49 PM PST by Don_Ret_USAF ("No Government can survive Without The Trust Of The People."er)
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