Posted on 08/09/2021 2:52:13 PM PDT by uscga77
Do you actually believe the SARS-CoV-2 protein spikes are malaria parasites???? Seriously???? Wherever did you get such a notion?
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Not the poster and I don’t think the spikes are malaria parasites, but isn’t it interesting that various anti-parasiticals all seem to have efficacy against this virus?
I haven’t found an answer to that, yet.
Perhaps you know?
The do look for random segments of the virus. I assume anyone producing spike protein would test positive. Half life of mRNA is 8-10 days depending on who you listen to.
Giant BS circle jerk.
Why are you mocking Moderna like this is a shock? Moderna has always been described as "94% effective" meaning 6% will still get infected.
I got Moderna and, to my knowledge, remain covid-free but I mask-up.
“Smokers actually fair better even though they shouldn’t.”
True LOL. My grandfather on my mom’s side smokes 2 packs a day int0 his 80’s and doesnt even have a hint of cancer, which astounds his doctor.
I am not a doctor or even a biologist (although I have had both malaria and Covid), but here is what I have found on why hydroxychloroquine (antimalarial) could also be considered as antiviral:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7128816/
And how ivermectin (anthelmintic,insecticide) could also be considered antiviral:
https://www.sciencedirrect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011
When I lived in an area where resistant malaria (P. falciparum) was rife, we were given doxycycline as prophylactic. Yes, it’s an antibiotic, but it also works against earliest stage of malaria (liver stage):
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3062442/
Drugs can be multi-use.
I got malaria anyway, but it took awhile (resistant P. falciparum, so was treated with such high doses of quinine I went deaf for two weeks). Anyway, the malaria parasite has a very interesting and complex life cycle:
https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/about/biology/index.html
The malaria parasite is a protozoa, an entirely different class of critter, and actual living thing and even though single-celled, much more complex than a virus. So far as I know, the jury is still out on whether a virus is a living organism as it has no independent metabolic processes. Size wise, a malaria parasite is measured in microns (varies from 1 to 20) and is gargatuan compared to the tiny SARS-CoV-2 virus which is measured in nanometers (varies from 50nm to 140nm).
Thinking the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein is a malaria parasite is like thinking there could be dog spikes on fleas or dolphin spikes on clams.
Hello? P. Yoelli is a murine parasite (affects mice, typically tree rats, not humans). It does not cause vivax malaria in humans, P. vivax does. It’s falciparum, not vivax, that goes cerebral.
Ivermectin is not used to treat malaria.* You must be confusing it with hydroxychloroquine, which is.
I have seen cerebral malaria up close and personal (horrible seizures, arched back, etc). Brain fog it ain’t.
A myriad of diseases and medical conditions can cause brain fog (like low oxygen levels from COPD or Covid, or dehydration, or stress, vitamin deficiencies, lack of sleep, any number of things).
And what on earth has a malaria parasite got to do with HIV (retrovirus). It’s not even apples and oranges. It’s onions and elephants.
Also please see my #46 on this thread:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3983555/posts?page=46#46
Finally, ivermectinis (A) not used to treat malaria and (B), even if it was (as hydroxychloroquine is) it could easily be both antimalarial and antiviral (again, see my #46).
*Ivermectin is an insecticide and it has been proposed it might be used to reduce the incidence of malaria, as mosquitoes feeding on humans and animals being treated with ivermectin have a shorter lifespan. That is far from being used to treat the disease itself.
Thanks. I will look at these later. Battling insomnia right now.
I was first in Australia & PNG in 1975. While we were required to be inoculated against Yellow Fever, no one mentioned malaria. After arrival, we were told to get the OTC chloroquinine pills available in the pharmacies and everyone we spoke to said, “We all have it.” We took the pills and did not get malaria.
We returned in Oz in 2000 and again, no mention of malaria. We did not visit PNG that trip, took nothing, contracted nothing.
Guess we were lucky.
Prayers for mother and baby.
Slightly off subject. I know more than a few people that have started HCQ and had their asthma diminish significantly or go away all together. Possible Malaria tie in also?
Please clarify.
If you look at the first link I posted in my #46 on this thread, you can read that hydroxychloroquine has anti-inflammatory properties, so that may be why it appears to help the asthma sufferers you mentioned.
It does not prove there is any link between asthma and malaria at all.
When we were kids and got into poison ivy, our mothers would get out the bottle of calamine lotion. Same bottle came out if we got bitten up by mosquitoes. Calamine lotion might relieve the itchiness in both scenarios, but hardly proves any link between poison ivy and mosquitoes. One is a plant and the other is an insect. The itchiness is a reaction to substances released by very different organisms.
The real problem here is that despite misleading claims made by the manufacturers to protect their bottom lines... the vaccines are losing their effectiveness against a quickly evolving set of viruses. Pfizer is the most effective and it is now less than 40% effective against the “Delta variant” and dropping fast.
The primary reason people who have had the virus are getting sick again with Covid is because one of the most commonly used PCR test is currently having its emergency use authorization pulled largely because it has up to a 90% false positive rate. Millions of people who were told they had Covid had the flu or some other illness, none of them have actual immunity to Covid.
Not making the news from the MSM is that one of the most commonly used antibody tests also had its emergency use authorization pulled because it was not detecting antibodies in a large percentage of people who actually had developed antibodies.
Not that other tests for Covid or Covid antibodies are a whole lot better. They are not. The hysteria over this has been driven largely by the misuse of test result statistics. These tests were meant to be used by doctors as diagnostic tools not to be used to come up with fake statistics for scare mongers.
The recent “variants” are more contagious but much less dangerous... less dangerous than a typical flu. They are in reality a godsend because they will grant immunity that is much more effective than the “vaccines” provide with very little risk to people who are not already at great risk of dying from any type of pathogen that they pick up. Actual herd immunity will be achieved quickly and this entire politically motivated fiasco will lose its usefulness to leftists trying to destroy our economy and everything that we stand for.
Steve: “P. Yoelli is the bridge for malaria between mice and humans.”
Me: Where did get this idea?
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Steve: “While P. vivax is identified as a major cause of severe and cerebral malaria in South east Asia, the Pacific and South America, most of the severe and cerebral cases in Africa were attributed to P. falciparum”
Me: Where did you get this information? While P. vivax can go cerebral, it is fairly rare, and P. falciparum is the one to worry about on that score, including in SE Asia where I lived.
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Steve: “we noted that the basal ganglia were the most common area of involvement in the ret group (with children affected by Cerebral Malaria)” The report also says there is abnormalities with grey matter.
http://www.ajnr.org/content/ajnr/33/9/1740.full.pdf
Me: First, CM in children differs quite a bit from CM in adults, but leaving that aside, this paper also notes hemozoin staining of the brains of these poor children. Now, if, as you claim, the brains of Covid patients are being damaged because the protein spikes are actually P. Yoelli (which only affects mice anyway) where is the hemozoin in Covid patients? Nowhere. Malaria parasites are also nowhere. They are easily seen in blood smears using an ordinary microscope (you need a scanning electron microscope to get an image of SARS-COV-2). If your theory is correct, why are there no malaria parasites found in the blood of Covid patients? Why no hemozoin?
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Steve: said, “A myriad of diseases and medical conditions can cause brain fog”
True though not with covid.
basal ganglia (core part of the brain) in both malaria and covid seem to have similar effects. This report shows the effects of covid on the brain. Note around the basal ganglia they name the areas it effects.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.11.21258690v1.full.pdf
Me: Actually, the pattern of damage from CM is rather diffuse, as noted in the paper, whereas in Covid patients there is a pattern of olfactory and gustatory areas affected first. This likely has to do with how SARS-COV-2 manages to enter through the nasal passages. How malaria parasites manage to penetrate the BBB is still a bit if a mystery and being researched, but certainly it is not via the nasal passages.
Steve: “PS- wrote this when I was really tired. mistakes is likely a given.”
I can appreciate that, but your original premise that the SARS-COV-2 protein spike is actually a murine malaria parasite is, I’m sorry, absurd. I am trying not to be unkind, but absurd it is.
You have made all sorts of wild associations, as in ivermectin (traditionally used to treat parasites of the helminthic persuasion, and also of the arthropodal), appears to be effective in treating Covid patients, ergo the spike protein is really a parasite of the protozoan persuasion!
I will give you the benefit of the doubt in assuming you must have confused ivermectin with hydroxychloroqine (traditionally used to treat malaria). But you clearly lack even a rudimentary high school understanding of taxonomy, let alone of malaria parasites and how they affect the human body. Go back to links in my earlier posts and begin your study. Spend time doing more research, and start with the basics. You Q followers pride yourselves on doing your own research, so buckle down and do it properly this time.
Again, you are picking out little phrases in various studies and thinking this proves something, drawing illogical conclusions by making dubious associations. It’s as though you noticed that children used the same yellow crayon when drawing a picture of the sun and when coloring a picture of a lemon, then accusing doctors of causing suffering and even death from sun poisoning because they advised people to use sunscreen and avoid prolonged sun exposure, when lemons are the real culprit and they should have told people to stay clear of them.
I would not be so hard on you if you were not giving out medical advice and claiming doctors are killing Covid patients with Decadron.
I leave you with an easy-to-understand article on why it is theorized that hydroxychloroquine might be effective in treating both malaria and Covid, even though they are caused by vastly different organisms:
https://www.asbmb.org/asbmb-today/science/032820/why-scientists-are-studying-if-chloroquine-could-t
No worries about malaria in Oz. It has been free of endemic malaria since the early 1980s.
Back in 1975, chloroquine was probably quite effective in PNG. Sadly, resistance has since developed. If you go back, look at doxy and pack plenty of sunscreen (doxy makes your skin more sensitive to sun damage, terrible sun burns if not careful — a fair-skinned Irish friend got the most awful case of sun poisoning as there was no sunscreen to be had in the area at the time). I would personally advise against Larium (seen it do such nasty things to people I’d rather have malaria again, frankly), but do you own research.
In the early 1990s, in the area where I lived, the predominant strain was multi-drug resistant P. falciparum and very common. At that time, it was believed Halfan would be effective, but was withheld except in the most dire cases in an effort to avoid resistance to it as well. Hence the “toxic doses” of quinine I was prescribed. The cure was worse than the disease in my particular case, but it did the trick. I am so grateful my hearing came back. It doesn’t always.
Also make sure to have some artesunate on hand in case you do contract malaria. That stuff rocks!
Apparently “Right to try” isn’t allowed if you get the Kung Flu.
The ‘powers that be’ are literally killing people.
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