Posted on 07/30/2021 2:55:01 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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Or just as likely, he was set upon by bandits and killed.
It' now clear it was a suicide. It was not one, but three arrows to the back of the head.
Another thought on this is how do they know the pollen surrounding the body wasn’t transported to the site by the hikers that found the body or by the researchers visiting the site? It was reported in 1991 that after the hikers notified the authorities, it was several weeks or months before they investigated, but word spread and souvenir hunters visited the site and took several artifacts before the site was secured. Those people could hàve transported moss and pollen there as well.
I’d guess such outcomes occurred in Sumer, Babylon, and archaic Egypt as well.
It makes more sense to me that he was not pursued the whole time. Someone familiar with the area, who had enough time to traverse down and then back up the mountains should have also been able to evade pursuers, particularly over more than a single day of sunlight. (Even if injured). Remember, there were no helicopters then, and maybe not even tracking animals.
I saw him too.
I remember when they found him, and was curious. Then as I recall there was a custody fight and he was put ‘somewhere’ in some little town in ‘nowhere’ Italy. And I figured at that time, there’s no way I’ll ever see him.
Until years later on a Tour of Italy the guide says, Oh, Otzi is in the museum here.
First place my Wife and I went when the bus stopped.
With hunter gatherers, it is feast or famine. They breed up to the supply of available food, then there is a change, any of a large number of causes, then they die off and start breeding up again.
When they have food, they tend to have plenty. When they do not, they starve.
Starvation during winter months was common among hunter gatherers in the new world, as recorded by numerous early explorers. Those who practiced agriculture tended to do better.
Freedom from hunger is a very recent phenomena.
Good point.
Is there any way to date the pollen?... To be able to say that such and such pollen is “mummified,” while another sample is fresh?
In the Pacific Northwest tribes like the Tlingit Did extremely well without extensive large scale farming, they were fishermen and hunter gatherers. these tribes lived well for thousands of years with that lifestyle until European contact because they were not overpopulated.
They dried their catches of salmon and stored it just like farmer store their grain.
These tribes all built fine buildings, canoes, and great art without being dependent on intensive agriculture.
That is an excellent question. Maybe through radiocarbon dating, but I think that depends upon the amount of pollen they have.
These tribes all built fine buildings, canoes, and great art without being dependent on intensive agriculture.
That is correct. They lived in an expecially abundant area.
They were pretty much permanent in their location.
That is very unusual for hunter gatherers, who usually have to move around to follow the game.
Perhaps it should be considered a hybrid of farming and hunter-gathering.
...some days you eat the dried meat, other days you ARE the dried meat!
You’re in kodiak?
You’re in kodiak?
The jig is up, the news is out
They've finally found me
The renegade, who had it made
Retrieved for a bounty
Never more to go astray
This'll be the end today
Of the wanted man
Otzi had O Muslims birth certificate.
Also, keep in mind that almost a rchaeologists are trained Marxists and it infects their scholarship. You have to be skeptical some of the conclusions but the evidence presented is interesting. Like all information sources these days. I say this as a person with a BA in anthropology.
https://www.archaeology.org/issues/422-2105/features/#art_page1
There was a funny hoax about Ötzi shortly after he was discovered. A European homosexual-oriented magazine said in jest that scientists had found semen in his rectum. They said it in such a tongue in cheek manner that they assumed nobody would believe it. They were wrong.
It was quickly picked up on the international news wires and was reprinted as fact worldwide, without attribution. The magazine actually panicked a bit, fearing legal troubles if it was traced back to them, so spent a lot of time trying to convince others it was a gag.
Eventually the word got out and was confirmed by the scientists involved.
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