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Battle of Appomattox: Understanding General Lee's Surrender
Ammo.com ^ | 7/26/2021 | Sam Jacobs

Posted on 07/26/2021 4:33:01 PM PDT by ammodotcom

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To: x

The right of state unilateral secession is not prohibited by the US Constitution. So FOAD.


41 posted on 07/26/2021 9:19:38 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Reily
It emancipated was all slaves in states still engaged in rebellion against the Union. Although implementation was strictly beyond Lincoln’s powers, the declaration turned the war into a crusade against slavery.

The London Spectator mentioned at the time that the message given by Lincoln's actions was not that one man could not own another. He could only own another man if he was loyal to the Union.

42 posted on 07/26/2021 9:23:28 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Republican Wildcat

Read the Corwin Amendment. That alone proves it was not about slavery.


43 posted on 07/26/2021 9:24:17 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: central_va; rockrr; BroJoeK

Like I said, eternal repetitive BS ...


44 posted on 07/26/2021 9:25:47 PM PDT by x
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To: Republican Wildcat
Go to the original source documents.

http://www.civilwarcauses.org/rhett.htm

45 posted on 07/26/2021 9:29:42 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Republican Wildcat

Secession was not over slavery but what the Federal Government was doing. It is easy to come to that conclusion because it was an issue even before the states ratified the Constitution in 1786. It had more to do with the perceived power grab by the Federalists against the Statists. Had Lincoln not one, a plan was ready to be taken to overturn at the last 30 years of laws Congress, who was majority made of the Northerners or those that leaned in the direction of the North.

Think about this, if the Southern democrats had done what the modern democrats had done today, then the Civil War would only have been postponed.

Again the Civil War was over States’ Rights not slavery. The industry of slavery was the major industry of the time. It was an after thought to the Civil War, meaning it didn’t even occur to politicians until at least a year and a half into the war to free the slaves. You go to the original source documents, especially Lincoln’s thoughts on the matter. Lincoln says it himself the war was not about slavery and it was a by product of the war not the reason for it.


46 posted on 07/26/2021 9:33:15 PM PDT by zaxtres (`)
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To: DiogenesLamp

“I am a little uneasy about the abolishment of slavery in this District, not but I would be glad to see it abolished, but as to the time and manner of doing it.”
—March 24, 1862 Letter to Horace Greeley

What I did, I did after very full deliberation, and under a heavy and solemn sense of responsibility. I can only trust in God that I have made no mistake.
—September 24, 1862 Reply to Serenade in Honor of [Preliminary] Emancipation Proclamation


47 posted on 07/26/2021 9:46:11 PM PDT by zaxtres (`)
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To: x

Repetitive truth.


48 posted on 07/26/2021 9:52:23 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Soldiers in the US military swear an oath to defend The United States. Not their own individual state but the nation as a whole. Certainly it can be understood that soldiers of individual states would feel in their hearts and minds they are defending their states.

The great majority of the Souths officers had previously sworn that oath prior to secession as officers in the US Army. Rather odd of today’s Democrats to call their Democrat ancestors traitors but indeed they were.


49 posted on 07/27/2021 12:24:25 AM PDT by jmacusa (America. Founded by geniuses . Now governed by idiots.)
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To: ammodotcom

bkmk


50 posted on 07/27/2021 3:20:49 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: ammodotcom
For ceremonial purposes, General Lee waited for General Grant in a white uniform.

Started to fall apart right about there.

51 posted on 07/27/2021 3:34:07 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: zaxtres
Again the Civil War was over States’ Rights not slavery.

State's right to do what?

52 posted on 07/27/2021 3:35:24 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
State's right to do what?

The right to secede. A right not prohibited in the USC.

53 posted on 07/27/2021 3:37:44 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: zaxtres
And it wasn’t until after the Battle of Gettysburg, over 2 years, July 1863, from the start of the war, that Lincoln gave his famous speech the Emancipation Proclamation.

Uh, Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation in September 1862 and it took effect January 1, 1863. Considerably before Gettysburg.

If the war was over slavery then Lincoln should have freed them at the beginning of the war, he did not.

Some other issues the Civil War originations lie in were the Sovereign State Laws in the 1850s.

Could you possibly be referring to the Kansas-Nebraska Act? It's hard to tell.

Before Lincoln was elected, the Southern States took offense to a plethora of laws Congress was passing from the 1830s to the War in 1861

For example?

Claiming the Civil War was over slavery is wrong and people have been taught wrong in the publik ejumukashun system.

I'm not sure where you got your education on the War of Southern Rebellion but I suspect it's the same place you learned how to spell. How?

In the Declaration of Independence, per Madison, the word “slave” was purposefully omitted and we know what was put in its place.

Madison did not write the Declaration of Independence, Jefferson did. And Madison was not one of those who signed it.

54 posted on 07/27/2021 3:44:02 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: central_va
The right to secede. A right not prohibited in the USC.

But not to secede without the agreement of the other states. The Supreme Court ruled that in 1869.

55 posted on 07/27/2021 3:46:09 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
The Supreme Court ruled that in 1869.

SCOTUS was a joke then and it's a joke now.

56 posted on 07/27/2021 3:48:46 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: DoodleDawg

South Carolina had 10 other states agree with their secession.....


57 posted on 07/27/2021 3:50:04 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

Maybe, but the Court’s rulings carry the weight of law in the United States.


58 posted on 07/27/2021 3:50:44 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: central_va
SCOTUS was a joke then and it's a joke now.

Duly noted.

59 posted on 07/27/2021 3:54:19 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: central_va
South Carolina had 10 other states agree with their secession.....

And 23 that were not allowed to defend their interests.

60 posted on 07/27/2021 3:56:33 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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