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The Reassuring Data on the Delta Variant: There’s no sign of a surge in hospitalization or severe illness, and the vaccines remain extremely effective.
Wall Street Journal ^ | 07/15/2021 | Leslie Bienen and Monica Gandhi

Posted on 07/20/2021 8:27:09 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: BeauBo
About half of the Adult cases (1/4 of total cases) are among vaccinated Adults. In Israel, about 90% of Adults have a first shot, about 80% are fully vaccinated. The 10% unvaccinated make up about half of Adult cases. I have not seen info on how much of the vaccinated cases are from among those with only a first shot.

If that is accurate then half the adult cases are coming from 90% of the adult population and half the adult cases are coming from 10% of the adult population...that would indicate the vaccines are extraordinarily effective. Yet, I have seen some people use this as evidence that the vaccinated are supposedly no more protected than the vaccinated, since "half the cases come from the vaccinated." It is extraordinary logic...narrative over facts.

41 posted on 07/20/2021 11:22:50 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: SeekAndFind

I thought all the new cases were vaccinated people.


42 posted on 07/20/2021 12:33:43 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Vaquero

AKA-AIDS?


43 posted on 07/20/2021 12:47:32 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

RE: I thought all the new cases were vaccinated people.

Not according to the data. Most of the new cases are still among the unvaccinated, but, many are also among those already vaccinated.


44 posted on 07/20/2021 12:48:00 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: BeauBo
I'm gonna add my two cents worth. I was considered fully vaxxed(Pfizer) in April. No side effects, except for a sore arm. Last month, I caught what would be called pre-covid, a moderate cold. Runny nose, sneezing, moderate cough.

The worst cold I ever had was in my teens, when I coughed all the time and when I sneezed snot came out of nose like an oil gusher.

45 posted on 07/20/2021 1:16:14 PM PDT by DallasBiff (Lautenberg The Forefather of "The Nanny State!")
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To: zeestephen

40% is awful, for a vax!!! It should be zero, or close to it.


46 posted on 07/20/2021 2:00:04 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now! Desantis 2024!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I had a doctor in my building come down to my office last night and warn me about the Delta variant. She went from 1 patient to 70 in just 4 days. It is bad news for folks like me that are COVID long haulers.


47 posted on 07/20/2021 2:05:32 PM PDT by TheWriterTX (Trust not in earthly princes....)
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To: DallasBiff

“when I sneezed snot came out of nose like an oil gusher.”

Thanks for sharing.

I think I will skip dinner tonight.

But seriously, did you actually test positive for COVID, after having been vaccinated, or was it just a cold?


48 posted on 07/20/2021 2:12:58 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: SeekAndFind

Well I think I’d rather get the disease and acquire natural immunity.


49 posted on 07/20/2021 2:14:46 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: SeekAndFind

And yet the fear porn says the Delta variant is more transmissable and more “dangerous” (note: they do not assert higher deadliness) than any one before it!


50 posted on 07/20/2021 2:16:50 PM PDT by MortMan (Shouldn't "palindrome" read the same forward and backward?)
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To: MortMan

The Delta Variant being more transmissible is true from observation. That it is more deadly is not (yet) supported by the evidence.


51 posted on 07/20/2021 2:43:52 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: DouglasKC

RE: Well I think I’d rather get the disease and acquire natural immunity.

If course you realize that you’re hoping that if you get it, you won’t be very sick...


52 posted on 07/20/2021 2:46:00 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: BeauBo
But seriously, did you actually test positive for COVID, after having been vaccinated, or was it just a cold?

No I didn't get tested. I just treated my malady as a common cold as in the old days, and I drank a lot of orange juice and had chicken soup.

Although, in the back of my mind, the symptoms of the Delta variant are like, as we used to say, a common cold.

53 posted on 07/20/2021 2:52:28 PM PDT by DallasBiff (Lautenberg The Forefather of "The Nanny State!")
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To: DallasBiff

I am also fully vaccinated, but came down with bad cold symptoms, especially coughing.

I went to get tested for COVID, but it came back negative. Apparently, there are a lot of colds going around, now that folks are mingling again.

I ended up self-isolating for a week for nothing - but I did get a lot of yard work done.


54 posted on 07/20/2021 3:02:39 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: SeekAndFind; MortMan

“The Delta Variant being more transmissible is true from observation. That it is more deadly is not (yet) supported by the evidence.”

The (3) mutations that distinguish Delta from other strains, all seem to enhance transmission and and immune system avoidance. There are no changes that effect how deadly it is.

In societies where lots of vulnerable elderly people are now protected by vaccines, case fatality rates are a lot lower, just because the younger folks who are getting COVID now, are the type who never had high risk of dying from the earlier strains either.

In India however, where the elderly were not vaccine protected, the Delta variant was plenty deadly.


55 posted on 07/20/2021 3:14:24 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

In India however, where the elderly were not vaccine protected, the Delta variant was plenty deadly.


Total deaths per people in India is less than many.


56 posted on 07/20/2021 3:26:32 PM PDT by TTFX ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

Take a dangerous vaccine or get hay fever? 🤔


57 posted on 07/20/2021 4:43:05 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

RE: Take a dangerous vaccine or get hay fever?

Let’s hope you don’t get the virus. And if you do, let’s hope you belong to the 99.7%, not the 0.3%.


58 posted on 07/20/2021 5:26:52 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: TheWriterTX

The cases are doubling every two weeks.


59 posted on 07/20/2021 5:27:21 PM PDT by firebrand ( )
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To: TTFX

“In India however, where the elderly were not vaccine protected, the Delta variant was plenty deadly.”

“Total deaths per people in India is less than many.”

We are talking about case fatality rate - how deadly is the Delta strain if you do catch it, compared to another strain.


60 posted on 07/20/2021 6:53:35 PM PDT by BeauBo
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