Posted on 04/05/2021 8:45:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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“ignore their doctors”
My MD absolutely advises against the rona vaccine. He’s been a leader in opposing the scamdemic. I guess he’s not a real MD.
Conventional MDs who mindlessly promote vaccination are as common (and as thoughtful) as potatoes. Meanwhile the American Academy of Pediatrics supports gun control based on the debunked Kellerman study. So should parents listen to their MD about guns, also?
Your MD is supposed to report it?
“Way to go, Dr. Mengele.”
Mengele was more subtle
Yes, I can. It’s 42 U.S. Code § 300aa–25: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/300aa-25
If you are a healthcare worker since 1997, I hope you’ve been meeting your requirements under the law. I’m honestly shocked to hear you didn’t know about them, since they’ve been in the law since 1986 and are specifically called out by HHS, CDC, NIH, VAERS, and others.
So your doctor thinks 550,000 dead Americans is a scam? And therefore, we should all listen to him and you? That’s hilarious. I’d love to talk more but I need to move things around on my schedule so I don’t miss the vaccine clinic on Thursday. The other local Vaccine clinic gave 1,500 doses of Pfizer last night btw. And they’ll all be back for dose 2 next month.
He actually practices medicine.
MDs who promote health and wellness approaches do not typically endorse vaccination. With early treatment, this illness is a big fat nothingburger. I bet not a single person in his practice has died from cv19.
The cv19 dead are the fault of conventional medicine, which collectively spent a year denying therapeutics, denying early treatment, and generally advising sick people to stay home and do nothing until they could no longer breathe.
The people who would otherwise needlessly die in your care, either have no symptoms or recover super quickly under wellness care.
So in summary, people who are in your care die of cv19. Great job.
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Nobody in my care is dying of anything. As for the people being treated by the doctors at the hospital where I work, almost all of them are surviving Covid now and getting discharged home. The people dying are dying from the same old things-CHF, heart attacks, COPD, Cancer. We are seeing an increase in Covid patients presently too as mitigation measures have been relaxed.
“Nobody in my care is dying of anything”
It was a collective “you”.
I see you did not deny that “you people” spent a year leaving people to die of cv19 (or “with cv19”) when, according to Dr Peter McCullough MD (and others) there were effective treatments available but ignored.
I had assumed it was a ChiCom bioweapon from the beginning. The bat coronavirus was the perfect vehicle for a weapon due to its temperature stability. The more persistent a bio or chem weapon is, the more effective it is and Covid is clearly quite persistent. Chemical weapons lose persistence as temperature increases. The temp can't increase enough to really get rid of Covid in most places on earth. That makes it a great weapon. So I did a lot of research since I was going to be on the front line with with this bioweapon and I came across that article. I remembered it.
I work in the ER. I have plenty of opportunity to talk with many different physicians in many different specialties and I know a thing or two about doctors and how they think and practice. The truth is, I'm not overly inclined to defend a lot of them but, the fact is, they're in charge of the s*** show.
The point of all of this is this: we trialed HCQ at our facility and then, one day, they stopped using it. I asked one of the big shot hospitalists (who I actually do respect) if we were still using HCQ and he specifically told me: "no, it doesn't do anything so we have stopped using it". This was back when we were seeing the majority of our fatalities statewide and my county was no exception. So, when they stopped using HCQ, the mortality rate actually started to improve.
What they found to be more effective were strict, statewide lockdowns- in the nursing homes most especially and proning, especially with the rotoprone bed. It was proning and infection control that slowed down the deaths. HCQ had nothing to do with it. The same decrease in mortality that we saw was observed nationwide. It was the mitigation measures, the proning and good old fashioned doctoring. HCQ had nothing to do with it.
And while all this was going on, what were you doing? Denying the existence of Covid or the need to do anything about it? Claiming it was the flu? or a cold? Accusing hospitals of conspiring to defraud the government and get rid of Donald Trump?
“And while all this was going on, what were you doing? Denying the existence of Covid or the need to do anything about it? Claiming it was the flu? or a cold? Accusing hospitals of conspiring to defraud the government and get rid of Donald Trump?”
Of course, HCQ has to be paired with zinc.
Even every lay person knows that.
I don’t believe that you or your hospital made any effort to use HCQ, because virtually all the published studies across many countries shown significant improvement in early treatment. My own MD offers nutritional therapy as the first line of defense, and both HCQ and Ivermectin as supplemental therapeutics. I was at the clinic office in the fall, and patients were not even required to wear masks in their offices.
Similarly, Dr Brownstein MD, who has been treating viral infection naturally for 30 yrs, had not had a single cv19 death in hundreds of patients treated with his very inexpensive home protocol. 4 days of intensive treatment, combined with nebulizer for cases where the cv19 patient has infection on the lungs.
If you would hypothesize a causation factor of any kind, we could look for it.
The historic numbers have been accounted for, but only because we cannot discern a pattern but never mind, how does it kill? (The 1/3 of deaths in first 48 hours is a something of a pattern if it stands scrutiny. I agree that every one of the stories is heartbreaking.)
The mechanism your excerpt suggests sounds very much like the mRNA vaccine works as proposed, so the suggestion is that vaccine kills by eliciting an immune system response.
Right?
Cathi if you could look at this link, sorry if it is too deep in medical terminology, and I’m not sure I would be very good in translating it into layman speak, but this connection between Fenfluramine derivatives and PAH is a perfect example of what I am asking for. The patterns were so clear and they were able to identify four categories of risk for many substances. The link:
https://err.ersjournals.com/content/22/129/244#:~:text=Fenfluramine%20derivatives%20like%20aminorex%20are,disease%20%5B9%E2%80%9311%5D.
I am not worth it so don’t waste your time on me, you are so kind. Please just keep your eyes on it and link me if something sounds enlightening such as your last excerpt. As I said I am all over the Oxford/AZ blood clot thing but that is more of a conventional vaccine and I understand it much better than the Moderna etc. I did look at all the links you provided and will check again on those Twitters to see if anything appears. If the smoking gun is found we will hear about it.
Oh I almost forgot! You said, “Prophylactic vaccines are given to healthy people. If they kill or seriously harm people...” This is perfectly reasonable to all. I see that as a separate issue and secondary issue. Debating whether the vaccines are necessary is just like debating whether we should have locked down and mandated masking. Well, it is simply too late for that now. If you are going to warn anyone about the safety of these vaccines, you must be specific and scientific. In other words, whether it should have or not, (It should NOT have!) the burden of proof is now upon anti-vaccine. God’s will be done.
And you can say whatever you want about HCQ and Ivermectin but I think any reasonable person, especially if they were particularly susceptible to dying from a viral infection like Covid, would understand that it would be better to just have immunity to the virus than to bet your life on any treatment. Outright immunity is better than allowing yourself to contract this virus and then depending on vitamins and supplements to keep you alive. This isn't the Dallas buyers club. You can shove those supplements up your *** afaic.
“This article” link is dead.
The other link was about flight as fever in bats, but it did not make the case that the coronavirus has evolved a more resilient lipid bilayer because it was in bats. The lipids will still melt in the sun. Sars-Cov-2 is still defeated by warm soapy water.
If rates did not slow as much as expected in warm summer months, as you predicted it only tends to confirm that fomite transmission is not significant in transmission of Covid-19.
Thanks for your contribution here RC! Please correct me with my thanks.
“The internet rule that you had to use Zinc with HCQ to be effective didn’t develop until later into wave 1 if not after wave 1”
I guess that would explain the zinc products sold over the counter in pharmacies for a few decades. You know, the ones which have so much data supporting their efficacy that even the FDA can’t stop them from advertising them as shortening the duration of a head cold (a virus). Does zinc block all viral replication? What role do ionophores like HCQ play?
Brownstein and my MD are not homeopaths. They’re medical doctors practicing real medicine, not vaxx whack-a-mole with investigational gene therapies. The 0.2% would never have gotten to 0.2% had the medical system made a point of actually boosting their immunity daily. Any family MD or nursing home not making zinc, iodine and vitamin D3 supplementation part of the support regimen for old people should be delicensed and prosecuted.
“And you can say whatever you want about HCQ and Ivermectin but I think any reasonable person, especially if they were particularly susceptible to dying from a viral infection like Covid, would understand that it would be better to just have immunity to the virus than to bet your life on any treatment. Outright immunity is better than allowing yourself to contract this virus and then depending on vitamins and supplements to keep you alive. This isn’t the Dallas buyers club. You can shove those supplements up your *** afaic.”
Ironically, your precious experimental gene therapies don’t provide the immunity that you claim should be the gold standard.
You just proved my point though, and that of Dr McCullough: that you people were totally fine with patients dying for a year while you waited for vax deployment. My guess, just a hunch, is that we would have had a million or more cv19 deaths by now, had not Trump, wellness MDs, Frontline, FLCCC (and yes even word of mouth by lay people like many on FR) encouraged early home treatment *in spite of the murderous scumbag medical establishment telling us otherwise*.
Murder by medical neglect.
“If you would hypothesize a causation factor of any kind, we could look for it.”
I honestly think you don’t understand this. The vaccine creates a powerful immune system reaction that lays low many people for a couple days and then they recover. Others don’t recover from the powerful immune system reaction....they expire (1/3 of the deaths within 48 hrs. as I told you.) Sometimes their kidneys fail; sometimes they develop IPT, brain bleed out, stroke, total organ failure, and a LOT of them have heart attacks, etc.
In VAERS these events are reported like this:
Vaccine administered with no immediate adverse reaction at 11:29am. Vaccine screening questions were completed and resident was not feeling sick and temperature was 98F. At approximately 1:30pm the resident passed away.
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My grandmother died a few hours after receiving the moderna covid vaccine booster 1. While I don?t expect that the events are related, the treating hospital did not acknowledge this and I wanted to be sure a report was made.
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Spouse awoke 12/20 and found spouse dead. Client was not transferred to hospital.
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Within 24 hours of receiving the vaccine, fever and respiratory distress, and anxiety developed requiring oxygen, morphine and ativan. My Mom passed away on the evening of 12/26/2020.
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RESIDENT CODED AND EXPIRED
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Death by massive heart attack. Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine EUA
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Resident received vaccine per pharmacy at the facility at 5 pm. Approximately 6:45 resident found unresponsive and EMS contacted. Upon EMS arrival at facility, resident went into cardiac arrest, code initiated by EMS and transported to hospital. Resident expired at hospital at approximately 8 pm
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patient status started to decline within a few hours of receiving her covid vaccine she was weak, developed increased shortness of breath and went to the emergency room were she was diagnosed with STEMI and within 2 days expired.
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Shortness of breath Death
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SHORTNESS OF BREATH Bradycardia Hypothermia Cardiomyopathy Elevated troponin Acute renal failure (ARF) Death
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If you click on to the ID of each you get more data. Here is an example:
Event Information
Patient Age 56.00 Sex Female
State / Territory Georgia Date Report Completed 2021-03-12
Date Vaccinated 2021-03-10 Date Report Received 2021-03-12
Date of Onset 2021-03-11 Date Died 2021-03-12
Days to onset 1
Vaccine Administered By Pharmacy * Vaccine Purchased By Not Applicable *
Mfr/Imm Project Number NONE Report Form Version 2
Recovered No Serious Yes
Symptom
CHEST PAIN
DEATH
HEADACHE
NAUSEA
PAIN
According to Medical Center’s report, patient was brought to ED deceased upon arrival via EMS on 03/12/2021 at 8:57am. Patient had been seen on 3/11/2021 at same ED complaining of a heavy type of chest pain in the mid chest, also noting body aches, headache, and nausea.
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Some posters have attributed the very large number of deaths (many multiples of what has ever been seen in vaccines before) to age. This vaccine was specifically designed for the elderly because they were the only ones who were very vulnerable to covid. 17% of deaths were 18-64. 79% were 65 and over.
Important when you are evaluating the covid vaccines is that in addition to the 2,794 deaths after vax, VAERS has also received 205,000 “adverse event reports.”
In that study that I posted part of the research paper where they warned about potential for PAH (Pulmonary arterial hypertension) research demonstrates that the “spike” protein the vaccines produce itself may result in the pathogenesis of certain diseases.
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