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James Joyce’s Ulysses is an anti-stream of consciousness novel (died 80 years ago today)
The Conversation ^ | 1/13/21

Posted on 01/13/2021 9:51:51 AM PST by Borges

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To: Borges; ought-six; circlecity

Dubliners and Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man are both easy to read, but beautiful in their imagery, and especially depth of feeling.

exactly like a highly skilled, but experimental musician, I agree that with Ulysses and Finnegans Wake, Joyce departs from conventional writing and delves into his own mind and psychology. At various points you think “can you return to the melody again, please?”


41 posted on 01/13/2021 11:05:04 AM PST by PGR88
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To: SaveFerris

“Hey, Kurt, can you read lips...”


42 posted on 01/13/2021 11:06:03 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Borges; Red Badger
I've read everything by Salinger I could get my hands on. I like his writing very much. I admire his talent. Like Barbra Streisand and Burt Bacharach, I don't align with them politically or personally, but I think they each have a fantastic level of talent, which I can enjoy outside the political context.

As for James Joyce, I too have tried twice to read Ulysses. To me, it is pretentious drivel. Perhaps that's because I'm not sophisticated enough.

I'm not sophisticated enough to enjoy John Coltrane's sax work either, but I do know he's the real thing. I can't say that about James Joyce.

43 posted on 01/13/2021 11:06:25 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: dfwgator

Let’s see “A’s” across the board

A+ gets you a free trip to the Bahamas


44 posted on 01/13/2021 11:06:47 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Borges

Applauding your namesake, I always found that Jorge Luis Borges and even Henri Bergson were a lot more fascinating to read and ponder than James Joyce or even Proust.


45 posted on 01/13/2021 11:13:17 AM PST by DeFault User
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To: SaveFerris; dfwgator

Get back to school!

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46 posted on 01/13/2021 11:30:52 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: PUGACHEV
Consider too, from merely observing the world, our ancestors gifted us with great art and technology, from which we now reinforce ignorance and stupidity.

We've become the "terror of trifles" - Edmond Rostand, Cyrano de Bergerac.

47 posted on 01/13/2021 11:44:46 AM PST by Lagmeister
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To: Larry Lucido; dfwgator

Shake it up baby!

Twist and shout!


48 posted on 01/13/2021 12:00:41 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: PUGACHEV

I haven’t read it but your description makes me want to give it a try.


49 posted on 01/13/2021 12:49:06 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: dfwgator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSLscJ2cY04

Funniest scene ever.


50 posted on 01/13/2021 1:05:24 PM PST by Borges
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To: cgbg

And a bottle of Bushmill’s...


51 posted on 01/13/2021 1:48:45 PM PST by Noumenon (As long as you have a rifle, you still have a vote. (KTF))
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To: Borges

I read that almost 50 years ago. I thought it was okay, and it’s probably his best; but it is still a mediocrity compared to, say, Jack London’s works. Hell, even Steinbeck’s stuff is superior. And Joyce can’t even begin to approach the genius of Mark Twain. As for Irish writers, I thought Liam O’Flaherty was better than Joyce. Different style, obviously; but O’Flaherty was a better story teller.


52 posted on 01/13/2021 2:53:59 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Borges

“Virginia Woolf right behind them?”

Oh, God. I took a course on Virginia Woolf in college, because a girl I was seeing at the time was into her, and she wanted me to take the class with her. I was, literally, the only guy in the class. And did I get some evil looks!


53 posted on 01/13/2021 2:57:13 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: PGR88

“Dubliners and Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man are both easy to read.”

Dubliners was okay, but Portrait was too...J.D. Salingerish.


54 posted on 01/13/2021 2:59:23 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

“Portrait” is a coming of age story. Or rather a “coming of aesthetic sensibility” story. Look at this prose...

“Better pass boldly into that other world, in the full glory of some passion, than fade and wither dismally with age.”


55 posted on 01/14/2021 6:19:15 AM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

“Look at this prose...’Better pass boldly into that other world, in the full glory of some passion, than fade and wither dismally with age.’

That theme was much better expressed in Mark Twain’s short story, “The Five Boons of Life.” Perhaps Joyce had read it, and tried to dress it in gaudy finery.


56 posted on 01/14/2021 9:13:29 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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