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Chemist? MD? Please check my micro-math. Thank you!
Vanity | 07 June 2020

Posted on 06/07/2020 3:31:30 AM PDT by zeestephen

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To: SheRebel

Not sure what you mean no conjecture is necessary. He had bad heart disease. He had the same heart disease the day before and did not die. Whether it was a combination of drugs and heart disease or asphyxiation or a combination of all 3 he died with a deputies knee on his neck. Whatever preceded that , once he went limp and lost continence he should have been checked and aid rendered. He died there on the pavement not in the hospital. Time of death is a legal term and is when you are declared dead by a physician. air has nothing to do with the time you actually died. if someone does an hour before i am called to declare them dead legal time of death is still when i make the pronouncement. The end of every unsuccessful resuscitation will have the attending physician say “time of death is....” and give the current time , not when the patient actually arrested


41 posted on 06/07/2020 9:01:24 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: SheRebel

Tell me what you think all that means. And why did the coroner rule it homicide


42 posted on 06/07/2020 9:05:40 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: SheRebel

No one saw anyone die in that video. He died at the hospital.
Wonder in the court of law will they go by the autopsy or mob rulings?.
It looks like he aided in his own death.


43 posted on 06/07/2020 9:07:24 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Vaduz

He died on the pavement. the failed resuscitation attempt ended in the hospital


44 posted on 06/07/2020 10:17:49 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: gas_dr
"The dilemma is that if he overcharges and the cops are acquitted get ready for the world to burn again"

I have a suspicion that Ellison is intentionally overcharging, while knowing that there is a good chance that they will be acquitted and the riots will start up again. It's kind of win / win for him. If he gets a conviction, then their base is happy. If he doesn't get a conviction, then their base will believe that's it's only because of institutional racism.
45 posted on 06/07/2020 10:51:56 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Mom MD

Reports stated he died at the hospital not on the street.


46 posted on 06/08/2020 8:03:46 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Vaduz

As I explained above time (and therefore place) of death is a legal definition. Death legally occurs when pronounced by a physician not when you actually died. He was dead on the pavement. He was legally pronounced dead in the hospital.


47 posted on 06/08/2020 8:06:22 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

He was NOT dead on the pavement even the EMS crew said he came to in the ambulance on the way to the hospital.


48 posted on 06/08/2020 8:50:09 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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I have not seen that, the only thing i saw was they were doing cpr in the ambulance. If he came to that would be different but I wonder what came to means... did they get a rhythm back briefly (which wound not change my assessment) or did he sit up and start talking which would change the narrative.

Either way Inhave not seen a refutation that he was unresponsive and pulseless when loaded in the ambulance


49 posted on 06/08/2020 8:57:21 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

George Floyd had 11 ng of fentanyl in his blood. When terminal cancer patients die - usually unconscious - they average 12 ng.


50 posted on 06/08/2020 9:25:50 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Vaduz

The fentanyl level doesn’t mean much. People can develop incredible tolerance to opioids functioning normally at levels that would kill most of us.

I’m not saying he did t have health problems or wasn’t doing drugs. That said the cop keeping a knee in his neck face down on the pavement 5 minutes after he stopped moving and was incontinent not checking on him or rendering aid was unconscionable and wrong. Period


51 posted on 06/08/2020 9:32:13 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

He not only had fentanyl in his system he had meth and had the virus it didn’t take much for him to die he already was on the way.
The defense for the cop has a lot of evidence to prove he may have aided to his own death.
Never let mob rule and facts cross lanes.


52 posted on 06/08/2020 9:38:20 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Vaduz

like i said all of those things are true. ultimately the cop kept a knee on his neck 5 minutes after he was unresponsive and incontinent. you are defending the indefensible


53 posted on 06/08/2020 9:41:35 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

The cop kept a knee on his neck 5 minutes but that is NOT what killed him he was breathing in the ambulance and died at the hospital records prove.
Denial will not change the facts


54 posted on 06/08/2020 10:21:21 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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