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K-12: The Most Appalling Things About Today's Students
Canada Free Press ^ | March 23, 2020 | Bruce Deitrick Price

Posted on 04/08/2020 6:30:52 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice

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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

Teachers and administrators are worried parents and society will find out kids do equal or better learning at homethan at govt indoctrination centers. And be in a safer environment where the adults don’t view them as sexual appetizers.


21 posted on 04/08/2020 7:40:58 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: GreyHoundSailor

“Drive around my area and you’ll see chest coolers at all the mailboxes for families with school-aged children. Those are for the free breakfasts and lunches that school buses are now delivering every day for every kid under age 19.”


You monster! You expect parents to feed their own children? Have you no heart?

/s


22 posted on 04/08/2020 7:49:55 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

Loss of the use of corporal punishment as a deterrent to bad behavior. Judiciously applied, corporal punishment is a great extrinsic motivator to keep a kid from disobeying. Not saying we should hit kids, just that there is no mechanism where you can break down their resistance. Bullies do it all the time to control their peers. All teachers can do is ask, request, plead, argue, debate, convince, cajole, beg, deal, negotiate, threaten, but in the end if the kid doesn’t want to go along or to get along, the effort is wasted, and a great deal of time is consumed. I laugh at liberals who don’t believe in corporal punishment, they sowed and now they reap.

Another thing about teachers, many of them do not have children of their own. You wouldn’t believe how many teachers don’t have any kids, but they know better than you how kids should be raised.


23 posted on 04/08/2020 8:24:30 PM PDT by webheart (L)
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To: ClearCase_guy

...”and stuff”...


24 posted on 04/09/2020 1:30:42 AM PDT by Does so (Call it the CCP-virus...The Corona-virus dies in Summer's sunlight! But next spring's Chinese virus?)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice
I teach high school. Some students lie like the rest of us breath.

I hope you don't teach spelling, sweetie.

25 posted on 04/09/2020 2:25:21 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Scapegoating is a textbook coping mechanism.)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

To improve the schools, we need to get rid of the people now in charge, them and their phony ideas.
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The children are being fed a toxic soup. Do we continue to feed this poison to children while the schools are in the process of being reformed?

Parents! Remove your children immediately!


26 posted on 04/09/2020 3:52:53 AM PDT by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: webheart

At times a device like the agonizer from old Star Trek would be great for schools.


27 posted on 04/09/2020 5:58:31 AM PDT by wally_bert (Spend like you were going to the electric chair!)
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To: wintertime
I discovered that most of the destructive changes to schools result from parents suing the school. Parents these days resent their child being put in a slow class, so now all students are mixed into one class. The teacher is expected to teach full spectrum. Parents resent their students getting a bad grade because they turn their work in late. Teachers are expected to accept work turned in anytime. Parents resent teachers swatting their kids, so corporal punishment is a criminal offense. This goes on and on.

Public schools are bad simply because parents pressured schools to "be gentle with my darling".

28 posted on 04/09/2020 6:58:34 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: ClearCase_guy

All we have to do is make the godless communiss relinquish their iron grip on the educational industry and we might have a chance. How to do that? I dunno. Infiltration not invasion.


29 posted on 04/09/2020 9:04:17 AM PDT by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

Let’s do something, we’ve been appalled by this failed system for decades.


30 posted on 04/09/2020 9:05:11 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: GingisK

This is a toxic soup of dysfunction. Remove children now.


31 posted on 04/09/2020 4:23:14 PM PDT by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: wintertime

That will never happen. So, do the correct thing for you Nation. Try to get it fixed.


32 posted on 04/09/2020 4:34:32 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: 1Old Pro

I think there are two essential things that everyone can do. Learn why the phony methods used in our classrooms don’t work, things such as sight-words, constructivism, Common Core, and many more. Then citizens and mainly parents can fight back. You can’t take on the school officials if you don’t know how the machinery works. (Here are the main ones: https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/public-education-has-been-a-war-on-children-for-decades


33 posted on 04/09/2020 5:29:29 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice (education reform)
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To: GingisK

It’s happening now.


34 posted on 04/10/2020 3:27:13 AM PDT by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: wintertime
Online teaching is not as effective as in-school teaching. Take chemistry for example. There are few homes equipped with a chemistry lab and shelves of chemicals. (Yes, that makes a difference.) There are no orchestras in the home. That impedes teaching music. Few homes have machine-equipped workshops. That makes robotics and other STEM subjects stall out.

Home school advocates tend to think in terms of the 1800s or early 1900s subject matter. There is so much more to learning than study and tests. Hands on work is actually required.

35 posted on 04/10/2020 5:45:55 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

The major “stall” to learning chemistry and other STEM subjects is ....***math***! Ditto for basic building, carpentry, and sewing skills. Government schools have proven to be completely sucky at teaching math.

Our community orchestras, choral groups, and string bands **welcome** young people. As for dance? Gymnastics? Karate? Blue Grass groups? Theater for elementary age kids? That’s completely private.


36 posted on 04/10/2020 10:49:53 AM PDT by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: GingisK
My kids are **NOT** any smarter than any of children of any Freeper. They are normally bright.The following is what 18th and 19th century education and values did for them:

—My homeschooled kids entered college at the ages of 13, 12, and 13.
—They finished Calculus 3 at the age of15. Two earned B.S. degrees in **mathematics** by the age of 18.
—Two were tutoring college students in math when they were only 14.
—One was teaching math to college students at the age of 18 and earned a masters at 20.
—The other was a world class athlete and traveled the world representing the United States. He earned a masters in accounting at a typical age.
—All play a musical instrument and sing in choir.
—One plays the organ and piano for church services.
—All are accomplished ballroom dancers.
—One was a world class athlete.
—All married members of our church and continue to be highly active in the church and community volunteering groups.
—One is an Eagle Scout.

These are only a few of their accomplishments. And...As elementary and junior high age children they never spent more than 2 hours a day in formal homeschooling. They played! Gradually, their play became their teenage work. It was a fascinating process to watch.

37 posted on 04/10/2020 11:10:02 AM PDT by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: wintertime
I know that is your favorite fantasy land. Americans love their high school sports and other school activities. You talk the talk, but how many parents will take their kids to theater when they are working? Kinds want to participate, not watch. There isn't a marching band down at the school of fine arts.

You evidently are not into chemistry, physics, electronics, or the like. Otherwise, you'd understand that labs are very important, above and beyond the math. Chemistry does not utilize a lot of math unless you are trying to theorize at the atomic level.

Society is social. School is a social thing, one that is very much a part of our society. Sure, it has its faults. All of those can be cured. Citizens have to care enough to fix the system, not abandon it. You don't actually care about your Nation. You want to abandon its needs without considering how it all evolved in the first place. It is "pooling our resources", something you might start all over again, just to eventually come around to the same old place for the same old reasons.

38 posted on 04/10/2020 11:14:47 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: wintertime

Very fine accomplishment for sure. I notices an absence of any electronics engineer, chemist, or botanist. I didn’t see an aerospace engineer in the mix. To my way of thinking, you have a narrow focus, and are damn proud of it.


39 posted on 04/10/2020 11:17:21 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: wintertime
One more thing. What you as a parent have accomplished, not many can do. You have exceptional children because you were an exceptional parent. It has been my experience that very few parents have that kind of drive combined with any sense of enlightenment. It is crucial that the people of this Nation be educated. That job truly is over the top for most parents. To keep our Nation functioning, public schools seem to be needed. As dysfunctional as they are, they are better than nothing. It would be in the best interest of everyone to repair that broken school system. Parents without your skills were actually responsible for breaking that system. Maybe you could give some thought toward fixing the general case. You are not the norm as a parent.

I have an extremely good workshop facility. I share it with high school students who have a yearning for learning by mentoring the high school's robotics team. The school isn't up to it, but it is ultimately my school to maintain. I am one of We The People, the place is my responsibility.

40 posted on 04/10/2020 11:28:45 AM PDT by GingisK
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