Posted on 03/31/2020 3:24:58 AM PDT by C19fan
“No doubt there will lawsuits aplenty after this is all over. Right now, the courts are closed.”
Not entirely sure that is true.
How could the 3rd Estate consider itself Non-Essemtial?
LOLOL... 100%
Hispanic?
Self centered people don’t use any stinking rules it’s all about me.
“”Yet another thing to admire in black people. They don’t follow orders or go along quietly.””
I didn’t look but I would assume they are Mexican as I don’t recall blacks holding birthday parties for 2-3-4 year olds. Mexicans always do...because you know the kids love to drink alcohol at that age!
WOW - I looked and I was wrong. Sorry! Surprised me!
Well, that was predictable. It had to be either Obama’s people or the brown ones from SOB.
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No doubt cooked up by the same compromised academic fools who gave us the global warming hoax.
So you claim the 10th Amendment but that does not trump the 1st. That is for powers not in the Constitution. Sorry but the 1st is already there, so the 10th will not work.
Re-read that entire Amendment. Notice there is a comma after “assemble” followed by “and”. Do you comprehend what that means?
“...or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
While peaceably assembled they may also petition the government for a redress of grievances.
But then understand that the 1st Amendment applies to the States via the 14th Amendment, which says that no person shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law. Courts have held that the substantive aspect of “due process” has its parameters within the first nine articles of the Bill of Rights; ie, “liberty” with “due process” means the rights guaranteed against the intrusion of the federal government. Those rights are also guaranteed against the states, thanks to the “due process” clause of the 14th. But they’ve also routinely qualified those rights against the state as only applying when a state has no compelling state interest recognized by the courts. If there is a legitimate, compelling state interest, due process is satisfied.
Thus, the freedom to assemble without even asking for a redress of grievance, but only to celebrate a baby’s birthday, is insufficient against the state’s right to prevent the spread of deadly infections. Sorry. You’re strong on grammar but weak on the law.
Don’t know any Mexicans. They looked black to me, and not just pigmentation but also body language. But if it was Mexicans, that’s admirable in them, too.
Me, I didn’t taste a drop of alcohol until I was eight days old. This man came in and cut me in a sensitive place, then put a bandage on, and got me drunk via my pacifier. Everyone celebrated. I fell asleep.
Again, the first Amendment limits the powers of Congress, i.e. the Federal government. It says nothing about state governments. Several states had established churches for many years after the adoption the the Bill of Rights. Courts have since ruled that the states are bound by some of the rights guaranteed by the Bill of Rights*. I seriously doubt that courts have ruled to limit states’ powers regarding assembly during times of emergencies.
* It wasn’t until June of 2010 that SCOTUS said that states were obliged to follow the 2nd Amendment even though the 2nd does not use the language “Congress shall not...” but the much more direct “...shall not be infringed”.
Sorry. I believe the law is clear. Obama hated the Bill of Rights for that very reason. He called them the anti bill of rights because it infringed on government trying to trample our God given rights. I feel very strong about my understanding of the law as well as my grammar.
It’s a slippery slope, and I do not like it one bit. Your rights are being denied, whether you know it or not.
It’s a slippery slope, and I do not like it one bit. Your rights are being denied, whether you know it or not.
But as my wife and I are in a “vulnerable” group because of the blessing of years, we are going out amongst others only with reluctance.
Stuff was closed during the “Spanish” Flu, many times on the orders of local authorities. American were much more used to “taking orders” back then than they are now. I’m optimistic; I think when this is over we’ll still be free.
Well, you have a great many supreme court cases that developed their interpretation of substantive “due process” over many decades pre-dating Obama’s birth. Obama would have been only too happy to trample everyone’s G-d-given rights, but that doesn’t mean that those rights are not already limited vis a vis state and local governments by long-standing precedents.
Before the Spanish Flu there was Chief Tamany, Boss Tweed, Big Bill Thompson, Tom Pendergast and Richard Daly, just to name the more notorious crooks. Somehow, American politics have progressed light years away from the ‘good old days’ when these dinosaurs ruled. Locking people in might well be a slippery slope, but if you put down sand and wear galoshes, you won’t slip down the slope. The War Between the States instituted income tax for the first time, and saw a suspension of habeas corpus and freedom of the press, all three discarded after the war.
Interestingly, on tonight’s local news were people begging our governor to institute a “lockdown”. In his latest press conference Gov. Parsons said that 75 MO counties have fewer than 5 cases of Red Chinese Virus (OK he said “Corvid 19”) and that he wasn’t ready to lockdown the state—yet.
Awwwww/s
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