Coronavirus: there are 2 types, Chinese researchers find, while authorities say faeces and urine can transmit the infection

South China Morning Post ^ | 03/04/2020 | Gigi Choy and Teddy Ng

[aimhigh]

This means public restrooms become one of the most dangerous places to visit.

[bitt]

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[Flaming Conservative]

Is it just me, or do China’s reported deaths seem a tad low, as in FAKE?

[thoughtomator]

It’s not good, for sure, but not the civilization-ending catastrophe that many fear.

[lepton]

And that 3.4% rate from WHO is nonsense-math. It’s stated as being died-so-far/reported-ill. If the final mortality rate ends up being near that, it’d only be by coincidence.

[lepton]

well yeah if there’s a 100% infection rate it could be 11 mil dead
but the chances of that are essentially zero

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probably more likely in the 5-20% range if it acted like the flu, so, 500k-2 million. But some of us are taking contact precautions, so that will lower it. But there is no vaccine currently available, so no firestops, so that will raise it.

[LucyT]

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[Fury]

Heard on Youtube last night that a resident in Wuhan is saying that 20 portable crematoriums are being used and they aren’t checking to see if the person is still alive.

Link please. Expect to provide a source for that if you post things like this.

[lepton]

if you live in a questionable area, don’t just remove your shoes at home...disinfect them.

[lepton]

At least he’s got an escape button in case things go wrong.

[Lazamataz]

Now for a musical interlude. "Those are people who died, died."

[lepton]

While your main post is correct, the additional quote is just stupid. That’s not how any of the math works except to show that the disease spreads faster than it kills.

“Situation reports from the World Health Organization provide an upper boundary of the mortality rate. As of Wednesday, there were more than 60,150 laboratory-confirmed infections around the world, resulting in at least 1,365 deaths. A bit of simple arithmetic indicates that slightly more than 2% of those infections were fatal”

The upper bound at the moment, outside of China, as of yesterday was just over 20%.

Of those reported cases, there are only 825 who have recovered, compared to 214 dead.

Because of the difference between time to die and time to recover, we haven’t hit the part of the curve yet where that mortality rate begins to drop.

That assuredly is off from the final number by what seems* likely to be a factor of about 3-5.5, depending where in that curve we actually are and developing success in treatment.

[thoughtomator]

Weather is already warming up, and we’re past peak flu season.

Unless there are undetected, massive outbreaks all over the US already, this isn’t going to hit 5%. Especially not with the level of paranoia out there about it.

[Vermont Lt]

The is no indication this is bothered by the heat. Singapore is pretty toasty.

[Brown Deer]

1.386 billion people in China x 3.86% = fifty-three million four hundred ninety-nine thousand six hundred

[Ozark Tom]

As with infection control of the poultry industry, place a basin at entryways, with disinfectant at a level sufficient to wet the bottoms of the shoes. Use shoe booties to keep the underlying shoes clean.

[moovova]

Hah...I missed that.

[Osage Orange]

Turds can carry it?

Good Gosh...Washington D.C. would cease to exist!!

Bring it on!!!

[lepton]

February is the last of the most common peak flu outbreaks, though I was reading on the CDC sites that they do go happen as late as May.

Especially not with the level of paranoia out there about it.

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One can hope. As I’ve said elsewhere, the more people that prepare the less likely we will need to have been prepared. We’ve been very fortunate to have been able to put the COVID off a couple of months after we learned of it.