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2/18/2020

Posted on 02/18/2020 3:02:47 PM PST by Vermont Lt

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To: RaceBannon
Say what???

*** One of the new cases was diagnosed 34 days after returning from Wuhan, and another 94 days after coming in contact with a Wuhan resident. ***

161 posted on 02/18/2020 8:54:31 PM PST by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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To: LilFarmer

original 14 tested has become 19 due to inflight testing, or 18 pending and 1 CDC confirmed.

The flight to Travis, CA had 7, and picked up 3 inflight - all asymptomatic
The Flight to Lackland, TX had 7, and picked up 2 inflight - all but one asymptomatic

So that’s 14+3+2

It was reported that Texas sent 6 to Omaha;

however Omaha said they received 13. One requiring hospitalization but stable, and the rest asymptomatic. All are awaiting final CDC confirmation.

Of the 7 in Calif, 2 were transferred to QotV - one asymptomatic received CDC confirmation of positive today; one with mild symptoms is still awaiting CDC.

I might have this wrong but it took 4 newspapers to just get this much.


162 posted on 02/18/2020 9:02:20 PM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belo3 ngs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: blueplum

and I would suspect the two sent to QotV were related, a couple or parent/child


163 posted on 02/18/2020 9:03:54 PM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belo3 ngs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: sockmonkey
another 94 days after coming in contact with a Wuhan resident.

we can't even use that as a metric anymore since we now know that the virus was well on it's way by Dec 31, had infected every province before the end of Jan, and China planes are still flying out. Contact with anyone from Kalua Lampur, Thailand, Singapore, Hong Kong, Japan, Vietnam, India or Taiwan would maybe be a better trace than just Wuhan?

164 posted on 02/18/2020 9:24:40 PM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belo3 ngs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: LilFarmer
....as the city enters the decisive stage of fighting the epidemic ...

WTHeck is the 'decisive stage of the epidemic' and WHY is it just now happening???


165 posted on 02/18/2020 9:28:25 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: PA Engineer

I wonder about the ever in your life a smoker as higher risk. If a healthy body replaces every cell in 7 years on the average, why wouldn’t that apply to lung structures?


166 posted on 02/18/2020 9:28:38 PM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belo3 ngs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: blueplum

No it does not. The genetic changes from smoking put those receptors into
Your lungs forever. And I’m an ex smoker now for 14 years.


167 posted on 02/18/2020 9:30:49 PM PST by datura
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To: blueplum
Agreed. That is why I have reservations about this study.

Protein Atlas is generally up to date and a reliable source on protein expression. I think there is more to COVID19 than the current consensus.
168 posted on 02/18/2020 9:41:39 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: entropy12

No one ever thinks of the Corona Inquisition, until they see about 100 Chinese kids get off a bus and head their way. Lol. Yeah. Been there. Done that. Hopefully you will have smooth sailing.


169 posted on 02/18/2020 9:53:19 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not a ppear that way.)
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To: Jane Long

I think it means another higher level of quarantine is possible. Or at the very least it is an excuse for current controls.


170 posted on 02/18/2020 10:01:03 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not a ppear that way.)
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To: justa-hairyape

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Bump to Top.


171 posted on 02/18/2020 11:16:01 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Jane Long

How much did China promise Rossi to say that?

speaking of flu:
Estimated US mortality seasonal flu 6.8% or 14,000 from Oct over 4.25 months (about 3,294/mo avg.)
Reported COV-19 Wuhan Flu Mortality: possibly 2.5% or a reported 2,012 over one month’s time; real number unable to be determined but estimated at 2x10 times reported, with infection spreading to other nations.

The number of hospitalizations estimated so far this season is lower than end-of-season total hospitalization estimates for any season since CDC began making these estimates.

USA: Among 1,573 hospitalized adults with information on underlying medical conditions,
91.9% had at least one reported underlying medical condition, the most commonly reported were cardiovascular disease, metabolic disorder, obesity, and chronic lung disease.
Among 333 hospitalized children with information on underlying medical conditions, 46.2% had at least one underlying medical condition;
the most commonly reported was asthma.

...12,167 laboratory-confirmed influenza-associated hospitalizations were reported by FluSurv-NET sites between October 1, 2019 and February 8, 2020... 34 (0.3%) with influenza virus for which the type was not determined

US flu season:
Jan 10, 2010 -
9.7 million cases of the flu
87,000 flu-related hospitalization
32 pediatric deaths, highest in 17 years.
up to 12,000 deaths, according to the CDC.
Forty-six states plus Puerto Rico are currently experiencing widespread flu activity, though the type of strain and incidence vary from region to region.

“Since mid-December, influenza activity has really ramped up,” said Marie-Louise Landry, MD, a Yale Medicine infectious disease expert
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/flu-season-2020-what-to-know

as of Jan 11:
13 Million Flu Cases Thus Far
overall rate of influenza-associated hospitalization increased to 1.9 per 100,000.
pediatric deaths seasonal total 39... 28 deaths were linked to B viruses.. 11 deaths were associated with A viruses, 6 of which were A(H1N1)pdm09 virus-associated.
The highest rate of hospitalization has been observed among adults aged <65 (47.6 per 100,000 population), followed by children aged 0-4 years (34.4 per 100,000 population) and adults aged 50-64 years (23.2 per 100,000 population).

...new data reveal that during recent weeks equal numbers of B/Victoria and A(H1N1)pdm09 viruses have been reported.

As of Feb 8:
at least 25 million total cases of flu
overall hospitalization rate has increased to 41.9 per 100,000.
250,000 hospitalizations
Total pediatric deaths to date 92
14,000 deaths
Mortality 6.8% below epidemic threshold of 7.3%
[6.5%x250000 = 17,000 deaths]

the proportion of influenza A(H1N1)pdm09 viruses is increasing.

51% of influenza positive specimens reported by public health laboratories were among persons less than 25 years of age and less than 13% were from persons age 65 and older.The highest rate of hospitalization is among adults aged <65, followed by children aged 0-4 years and adults aged 50-64 years.

all stolen from various cdc sites and:
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm


172 posted on 02/18/2020 11:20:55 PM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belo3 ngs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: datura

congrats, Datura!


173 posted on 02/18/2020 11:25:23 PM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belo3 ngs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: Persevero; LilFarmer

h/t Persevero for finding an article with actual numbers -29 confirmed per Time


174 posted on 02/18/2020 11:45:59 PM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belo3 ngs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: blueplum

Cellular response to smoking

https://www.atsjournals.org/doi/full/10.1513/pats.201001-014AW

Summary: Everything gets screwed up, every biological structure and chemical pathway, and sometimes genetic material, but some (person’s) lungs are better at recovering from oxidative stress than others.


175 posted on 02/18/2020 11:48:51 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: blueplum

Two or three weeks ago I was loaded up with all of that sort of stuff. Clorox, gloves, rubbing alchol, wipes, etc. As I was leaving a couple of guys were near the exit trying to sell appliances. I heard them say “There goes another one!”

I didn’t see them the following day when I went back for TP and paper towels, canned food, beans, rice and more of the other stuff.

An Amazon shipment of oil filters, light bulbs and other stuff is 4 days late now. So I had to go down to the local auto shop. They were out of the filter that I wanted (found another one) and I took the last two-pack of bulbs that I wanted. The lightbulb section was very bare. Not sure if that means anything - they might just have a lousy stocking system.


176 posted on 02/18/2020 11:49:46 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Could be, but seems like that would be true everywhere if it is(based upon this):
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/usmap.htm


177 posted on 02/18/2020 11:52:44 PM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: steve86

Did you see the metrics on that article? Just another data point.


178 posted on 02/19/2020 12:33:43 AM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: blueplum; Jane Long
doesn't quite look like deescalation

Private hospitals will now ‘share the patient load’ of CV testing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiuaRu1fQv4

(this looks like a change of mind over handing a swab kit out and letting people take it home and swab themselves)

179 posted on 02/19/2020 1:13:05 AM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belo3 ngs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: blueplum

also in Singapore, a look at the set-up of the 900 clinics to channel local populations to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkxypHyvRPo

and, Singapore is also conducting a Sentinel Surveillance Program, which is randomly capturing wild, err, randomly selecting individuals within a community to test for “all kinds of infections including Covid-19.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eRK2Y5jBHk

So good for Singapore.


180 posted on 02/19/2020 1:21:49 AM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belo3 ngs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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